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Old 12/13/06, 3:27 PM   #71
Liand
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Dwarf Paladin
 
Perenolde
Originally Posted by Judia
Further, drawing the least aggro is a DISADVANTAGE when you are a plate wearing healing class; yeah I really love drawing the least aggro when I watch adds beating on cloth wearing priests.
So just put up Righteous Fury? We also have a Taunt for snap aggro. Our advantage is that we can CONTROL our aggro, because we start off the lowest and can increase it at will.

Originally Posted by Judia
But in the context of a raid where oyu have 2 shadow priests pumping out 250-300 mp5s and 3 innervate, the advantages of BoW over MTT are infact small enough to be insignificant. People are extremely unliely to run short of mana givent he raid set-up I posted with the ability to drop shaman into the healing group for mana-tide.
250 to 300 MP5? That'd require the Shadow Priest doing 1000 to 1200 DPS, and if their sustainable DPS ever got that high somehow, it still only applies to the other 4 people in group for total of 1100 MP5. With the 19 mana using classes in your ideal raid make-up, IBoW adds 935 MP5 total without any maintenance at all. That's definitely not insignificant.

Originally Posted by Judia
Look at my raid.
Think about where you would add a paladin and which class you would remove.
Then add up all the things you lose, and it isnt so clear. The primary candidates for replacement are a priest or a shaman, but in both cases you end up getting less or less healing, AND less utility or raid buff performance.
Easy.

I'd replace the second Elemental Shaman with a Retribution Paladin. BoW gives more mana regen than Mana Tide. Sanctified Crusader is far better than Totem of Wrath (3% crit to all attacks raid-wide vs. 3% spell hit and crit to party). Ret will probably do less DPS, but it's virtually mana free, whereas Elemental has to pick between healing and DPSing. You also get another Judgement effect.

And so on and so on...

Really, it just seems like you're looking for a reason to exclude Paladins. We just offer so many things are completely unique in game.
 
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