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Druss · 01/26/07, 8:36 AM

I'm in favour of any ability that adds more obvious group/raid utility to rogues but I have to say that I have no complaints about the current smorgasboard of abilities we have to offer. Imp Sap is (now) superb for CC, Imp Kidney Shot means ALL damage to the KS'd mob is increased by up to 9% (focus fire on that sucker) and Quick Recovery means that rogues are much easier to keep alive (or they can heal themselves more efficiently; 510 per tick for me with heavy netherweave bandages). Add Blind, up to a 5.5 second gouge that can be used regularly and poisons that cripple/slow casting and or limit healing and I really think rogues have a lot to offer. Not to mention the obvious ability to get out off trouble/aggro with vanish, lock picking and (in groups without warriors) expose armour.

But - and this is a big but - not every rogue uses these abilities to their potential prefering instead to focus (mindlessly) on DPS AND many of these abilities are not readily noticable to the rest of the group (they see no buff icons from the rogue etc). So - something small and nifty that a rogue can offer a group/raid as a buff would increase the perception of usefulness (that most connoiseurs know should exist anyway). As yet, though 70 is still a ways off for me, I have not noticed that rogue DPS is lacking as much as so many rogues on the rogue forums seem to think it is - gone are the golden days of out-DPSing everyone by a country mile in single target DPS in raids with a beer in one hand due to weapon skill advantages (that should never have been removed as they were) but we're still not at all shabby at putting out the pain.

I would have thought a moderate group buff that heightened the group's ability to detect stealth and reduced its chances to be critically hit by a small margin (call it Foresight or Lightning Reflexes or Anticipation or something) would do the job - just to get that icon on the buff bar would improve rogue desirablity immeasurably - because, as it is, there is a growing perception amoung the unenlightened that rogues are a solo class obsessed with PvP who have less to offer a group than anyone else.

01/26/07, 8:36 AM	#60
Druss Von Kaiser Druss Dwarf Rogue <Asterick> Azjol-Nerub	I'm in favour of any ability that adds more obvious group/raid utility to rogues but I have to say that I have no complaints about the current smorgasboard of abilities we have to offer. Imp Sap is (now) superb for CC, Imp Kidney Shot means ALL damage to the KS'd mob is increased by up to 9% (focus fire on that sucker) and Quick Recovery means that rogues are much easier to keep alive (or they can heal themselves more efficiently; 510 per tick for me with heavy netherweave bandages). Add Blind, up to a 5.5 second gouge that can be used regularly and poisons that cripple/slow casting and or limit healing and I really think rogues have a lot to offer. Not to mention the obvious ability to get out off trouble/aggro with vanish, lock picking and (in groups without warriors) expose armour. But - and this is a big but - not every rogue uses these abilities to their potential prefering instead to focus (mindlessly) on DPS AND many of these abilities are not readily noticable to the rest of the group (they see no buff icons from the rogue etc). So - something small and nifty that a rogue can offer a group/raid as a buff would increase the perception of usefulness (that most connoiseurs know should exist anyway). As yet, though 70 is still a ways off for me, I have not noticed that rogue DPS is lacking as much as so many rogues on the rogue forums seem to think it is - gone are the golden days of out-DPSing everyone by a country mile in single target DPS in raids with a beer in one hand due to weapon skill advantages (that should never have been removed as they were) but we're still not at all shabby at putting out the pain. I would have thought a moderate group buff that heightened the group's ability to detect stealth and reduced its chances to be critically hit by a small margin (call it Foresight or Lightning Reflexes or Anticipation or something) would do the job - just to get that icon on the buff bar would improve rogue desirablity immeasurably - because, as it is, there is a growing perception amoung the unenlightened that rogues are a solo class obsessed with PvP who have less to offer a group than anyone else.