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Old 04/20/07, 8:45 PM   #67
tr33hugger
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Originally Posted by Boevis View Post
Just as a Reference: Damage coefficients

Starfire - 100% (3.5/3.5)
Wrath - 57,1% (2/3.5)
Moonfire - 14,9% / 52,2% (34,8% * 1.5/3.5 - 65,2% * 12/15)
Entangling Roots - 90,0% (27/15 * 0.5 - immobilizing)
Insect swarm - 76% (12/15 * 0.95)
Hurricane - 107% (10/3.5 * 1/2 * 0.9 * 0.83 - nonsensical derivation)

Without considering CoS, Moonfire becomes worse than IS around +650 dmg by itself and costs over twice as much mana. Even considering the benefits of Crit, MF just isn't worth casting in a serious raid setting unless you can guarantee your mana will last the duration of the fight. And then use it in addition to IS, not as a replacement, IS really is that good.

The ability for moonkin to melee for mana is a pathetic joke given to us by Blizzard because of Panzerkin that PvP'd before BC claiming that Str and high damage weapons (Hand of Rag) were valuable to moonkin because of OOC and Judgement of Wisdom. None of this was supported by math of course, nor will it ever be.

Sorry, but i can't see why Moonfire is worse less than IS "by itself", as you claimed above. Sure it's dpm may be less than IS (read on, actually is isn't), haven't calculated so far. Having 890 spelldamage i get the following numbers: (Disclaimer: i only got 3/5 moonfury... 34/0/27 spec)
- Moonfire Initial Damage ~ 530 + 4 ticks รก 308 damage. Thats 1762 for 450 mana scoring 3,91 dpm. A crit would increase this to 2292 dmg for a handy 5,1 mps.
- IS ticks for 245 netting 980 damage for 5,6 mps.

As you see, the dps you get from moonfire is roughly twice as much as IS provides, depending on crits. With a solid balance build you will most likely have 5/5 moonfury and this will even out the dpm difference between moonfire and IS. Having CoS on the target of your choice will increase moonfire dps and dpm by another 10% (or 13% with talents).
Now you do the math...

Correct me if i'm wrong.
 
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