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Coriolis · 04/30/07, 2:05 PM

It really doesn't take that long for a mage to kill my hunter though. He has about 8.3K hp (unbuffed obviously), which doesn't seem that low to me. Avoiding instant spells with los is rather impossible so the mage will always get in the arcane power POM pyro then fireblast and most likely at least one more fireblast at least. Of course if most of those crit it's game over but even if they don't the hunter will at best barely survive. And this is aside from what the mage's partner may do - if it's another dps class then he really has no chance to speak of to survive those 16 seconds before I can NS him. Unless of course he manages to freezing trap the mage but unless we get very lucky or the mage is really incompetent that doesn't happen. Even with frost/fire resist totems it's rare for him to live through the AP mage outburst in the end. Pole dancing is fairly easy for me to do if the mage decides to poly my hunter instead even with my miserable 6.4K hp, but almost impossible for the hunter.

And yes the hunter can sometimes prevent the mage from polying me but it is very iffy. Silencing shot has a flight time which makes it alot harder to use effectively to stop a specific spell (especially a short one like poly). The mage can have mana shield up to prevent some pushback - after all if I'm polied it's game over in any case, no mana issue. Also, hunters have lots of LOS issues of their own - if I am trying to LOS the mage I will most likely los the hunter as well in many circumstances. I.e. if I run behind a pillar to los the mage and he comes behind me now we're both out of los of the hunter. And yet if I don't los him I can't prevent him from polying me forever.

Don't get me wrong it's not like we don't ever win against mages but it's extremely frustrating being the only healing class without a way out of poly, when a poly on a healer in a 2 vs 2 is essentially an automatic loss. Druids of course might aswell be immune, pallies can use blessing of sacrifice or if they messed that up, shield out of it, and priests while they have fewer options can at least use their pvp trinket to escape the first one and hope the fight is resolved favorably before the diminishing returns reset.

That trinket however is extremely interesting, I'll need to get it

. If it breaks poly it will be great.

04/30/07, 2:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Coriolis Piston Honda Coriolis Draenei Shaman <Sedition> Mug'thol	It really doesn't take that long for a mage to kill my hunter though. He has about 8.3K hp (unbuffed obviously), which doesn't seem that low to me. Avoiding instant spells with los is rather impossible so the mage will always get in the arcane power POM pyro then fireblast and most likely at least one more fireblast at least. Of course if most of those crit it's game over but even if they don't the hunter will at best barely survive. And this is aside from what the mage's partner may do - if it's another dps class then he really has no chance to speak of to survive those 16 seconds before I can NS him. Unless of course he manages to freezing trap the mage but unless we get very lucky or the mage is really incompetent that doesn't happen. Even with frost/fire resist totems it's rare for him to live through the AP mage outburst in the end. Pole dancing is fairly easy for me to do if the mage decides to poly my hunter instead even with my miserable 6.4K hp, but almost impossible for the hunter. And yes the hunter can sometimes prevent the mage from polying me but it is very iffy. Silencing shot has a flight time which makes it alot harder to use effectively to stop a specific spell (especially a short one like poly). The mage can have mana shield up to prevent some pushback - after all if I'm polied it's game over in any case, no mana issue. Also, hunters have lots of LOS issues of their own - if I am trying to LOS the mage I will most likely los the hunter as well in many circumstances. I.e. if I run behind a pillar to los the mage and he comes behind me now we're both out of los of the hunter. And yet if I don't los him I can't prevent him from polying me forever. Don't get me wrong it's not like we don't ever win against mages but it's extremely frustrating being the only healing class without a way out of poly, when a poly on a healer in a 2 vs 2 is essentially an automatic loss. Druids of course might aswell be immune, pallies can use blessing of sacrifice or if they messed that up, shield out of it, and priests while they have fewer options can at least use their pvp trinket to escape the first one and hope the fight is resolved favorably before the diminishing returns reset. That trinket however is extremely interesting, I'll need to get it . If it breaks poly it will be great.