Originally Posted by Spades
Our survival hunter puts out about 10% less DPS than me in raids, it seems, but his effective RDPS contribution is insane. I wonder if you know much about Expose Weakness?
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To give a number to a typical RDPS contribution I'll share my numbers:
I've got a lil over 1000agi raid buffed (agi elixir, gift of the wild, and bok), we'll say straight 1000 to make the math easy. Our raid typically rolls with 8physical dpsers, 10 if you count pets (and you should). My EW is up almost 100% of the time, and is worth at least 250 AP. So, for our typical raid makeup my EW is worth 2500 AP. Using just the 14AP=1DPS rule for white damage that's already 178DPS. The reality is that 14AP is worth more than 1DPS when you account for crits and special attacks (I gain about 1.7dps from 14AP on just my auto-shot damage, counting specials it would be even more).
So, in order for a respec to BM to be worth it to me I would have to be gaining at least 178DPS, likely much much more.
As for group makeup, the curse and the boon of a SV hunter is that it doesn't matter where you place them, they are still going to benefit the raid. Ideally you'd pop em in a group with a feral druid, a shadow priest, an enh. shaman, and a BM hunter, but really I doubt the opportunity cost of that group would be worth it in the end. Even an enh. shaman alone might not be worth giving to the SV hunter if it's gona cost your rogues WF (enh. shaman GoA is 110agi for the fully buffed SV hunter, so with the above numbers that's 275 more AP for the raid, so 19dps, I guarantee you that your rogues get more than 19dps from WF). So where do you put the SV hunter? With a feral druid if you can (5% crit is actually very significant for his dps and longevity if he has TotH), maybe with a spriest if there is room, maybe with the BM hunter for FI if there is room there.
Anyways, I'm rambling, those are my thoughts.