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Can we turn this thread from "can we do it" into something more along the lines of "useful advice for people going into TK/SSC for the first time"?

Things like the scale of difficulty of the different bosses in each zone, how many geared tanks you need for each one, what kind of resistance sets are needed on what classes, what fights have specific requirements (aoe, etc). How hard/long is the trash clear in different parts of the instance...

My guild has a core group of about 15 players while the rest is way more casual, we've been clearing karazhan for long now and have three 5v5 arena teams over 2000. Only recently have we been able to round up 25 people one night a week and we've been able to down gruul a few times without too much problems. DPS is low but we still manage, last week we even had a 20 grow kill (some dps died at the start). We had about 1 hour of attempts on mag and were making decent progress.

But this isn't about my guild.

So, advice for people going in for the first time? Casual guilds don't have a lot of raiding time available so anything that allows them to plan ahead and not waste time would be great. I imagine there are a lot of guilds in this situation and that will consider taking a peek inside now that the attunement hurdle isn't there anymore.