Originally Posted by Totemologist
For right now Crit works for me, I don't fall behind on output and more importantly I don't run oom.
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This is sort of the whole point here. While of course at some point 1 crit rating will outshine 1 more +damage that's not reasonably something that's going to happen for pure sustained dps so don't worry about it.
However, 1 crit rating being better than 1 +damage because of sustainability issues and overall providing more dps, now that might be a number worth calculating (or an equation worth talking about). In the meantime fit to your own stuff.
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I originally posted to see if I had made a PvE error in selecting spell penetration as an aspect of my socketing, it seems that I indeed had. I can easily resocket the items with the dam/stam gems and keep the bonuses that I like.
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Indeed, but it's been corrected and looks like you know what's what.
Originally Posted by cladnin
Didn't read this whole thread, but searched the first 6ish pages for another penetration thread and found none, so I'm posting here.
Penetration of any use on Supremus? Our mages clocked around 16% partial resist on him tonight, all of course fire. No that he is hard even with 4 fire mages, but negating some resists would be quite useful, and there is no way you would respec for him. The dps loss was quite hefty. We kept COE up and such, but still mad resists. Any real testing/data on PVE mobs and penetration?
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As discussed on page 2 of this 3 page thread, yes, it does look like he parses up to a fairly significant amount of fire resist. According to Roywyn his calculations put Supremus at around 97 FR after CoE, so you might actually want to put on a penetration piece or two for him (or better yet, consumables, Hi Empowerment) as Darkchani did and get a signifcant bump.
While the thread is derailed, I could swear I've read somewhere (and referenced numerous other places) that binary-based spell -resist can somehow overcome level based resists. I want to say this is completely insane and never worked, but for some reason I honestly recall hearing it from a somewhat-reputable source. To be fair at the time I thought wowwiki was reputable though, so let's not get crazy here.
Anyone able to step in and say 'yeah, I read that too, got disproved'? It's not overly relivant except as a potential stat for affliction locks (or, alternatively SPs) and I suspect it would come out to be significantly less advantagious than simply socketing another +dam gem, but figured it might be worth asking.