Malazaar

No, the 1.3 multiplier to the base damage also occurs if no mangle is active on the target. I originally assumed the base damage was just higher than the tooltip states.

Since this issue has been brought up, here is my originial data concerning rip:

While trying to come up with a formula for calculating rip damage i noticed that none of the typical sources had anything to work with (they all had formulas, however, they always predicted wrong rip ticks). So i started some testing on my own. My subjects were Warp Chasers (or at least some mobs of that species) in Terrokar, just outside Shattrath City. I made sure i didn't have the 5 % Damage increase buff you sometimes have in Terrokar and Auchinduon and i always built up combo points using rake (so i did't have a mangle debuff up).

I shifted several items of my gear to get different AP values and then proceeded to do a 5cp Rip on the aforementionend targets. I wrote down the corresponding AP values and Rip ticks (i always exclusively noted the first rip tick).

After collecting 14 Data Pairs (ranging from 491 to 2732 AP) i did a linear regression using the commonly known Gauss-Newton-algorithm (method of least squares). I came up with the following formula:

y = 0.264*x + 1709

Where y is the total Rip damage and x the attack power value. Note that while doing all the tests i had Naturalist 5/5. If you eliminate the Naturalist factor from the Formula you get:

y = 0.240*x + 1554

I think it's also worth mentioning that all data collected fits perfectly into the model (no value was more than 6 damage points - 1 per tick - from the expected value).

So while the assumed scaling factor (24% AP) is obviously correct, the base damage is way higher than the tooltip states.


I assume someone else has done similar tests and come up with the 1092 * 1.1 * 1.3 (= 1561.56) formula. This value is outside the expected error window (6 points damage), it's damn close. Until the person that came up with this formula can say that the hell the 1.3 and 1.1 multipliers are i can't really tell which one is right.