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Old 10/26/07, 5:15 AM   #276 (permalink)
Aphyrax
Great Tiger
 
Tauren Druid
 
Tichondrius
The problem is not that it is a buff. It is a change in the wrong direction balance wise. In 2v2, getting out of the 5SR is easy against outlast teams where the fight drags on. Against burst teams the extra mana on innervave is a buff. So its a straight 2v2 buff.

In 5v5 you should almost never be out of the 5SR. There is always something that needs to be cycloned. Always. The only time you can get out of 5SR is when you bear up, and when that happens things tend to go south anyway. So its a 5v5 nerf.

The last thing druids need are 2v2 buffs combined with 5v5 nerfs. It is the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by Zure View Post
You, in turn, completely left out innervate and living spirit.

The S3 gear had 69 mp5 before the change. Let's make that our baseline.

With no living spirit, you get 96.0 mp5 OO5SR as you mentioned. With living spirit, you get 110.4.

In combat you get: 28.8 or 33.1 w LS.

Net gaining requires 60% OO5FR without LS, 44% with LS.

Innervate gets an extra 1536 mana from 173 spirit, 1767 with LS.

In a 4 minute fight, using a full length innervate, this means you net gain mana with 16% OO5SR, 2.5% OO5SR.


I would label this a clear buff for those who can avoid having innervate dispelled.
 
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