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Old 10/29/07, 12:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
Angeron
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
Ever try to coordinate a guild full of such people? They don't just get out of sync with me, they get out of sync with each other. And being an altoholic, I don't have all that many character slots left too play around with.

I have exactly one guildmate who successfully managed the transition to the raiding game. She's healing in Karazhan and Gruul right now.

Another one ended up getting disgusted with how hard it was to make teamwork happen, and ended up deciding to pretty much only ever solo -- and shortly after hitting 70, he ended up just quitting. He comes back from time to time, with enthusiasm at first, but then the problem comes back and he gets bitter and quits again.

We have a 54th level paladin who is still that level because he had to take months away from the game due to cancer treatments. Everyone wants to play with him when he gets back, but people also do not want to completely abandon the game due to constantly dwelling on the fact of his cancer in the meantime!

This is where I usually hear the "get better friends" comment, which frankly is absurd to me. Why should a multiplayer game prevent people who want to from playing together? Why should it break communities rather than strengthening them?
It seems to me that you have mixed up cause and effect. There's no reason that you can't play with your friend, even as a level 70, help out with his elite quests, run him through instances, help him do normal gathering quests! He'll still get exp, you'll get to spend time with him/her, everyone wins. Your being selfish and wanting to "gain something" from helping your friend outside of goodwill and self-satisfaction.

WoW has a linear rewards system, from which you have clearly taken all that is availible in the level 54 section, so just because now you can't go back and make gold (or whatever the fuck it is exactly that you want? This remains entirely unclear) while you help your friend, doesn't mean anyone is "preventing people who want to from playing together". Clearly the problem doesn't exist with WoW "breaking communities rather than strengthening them" but with you (and your guildmates!) being either a) greedy, or b) not really that interested in helping your friend in the first place.

Be honest with yourself, you play the game to have fun with friends and do X; X being all the intangible crap (gold farming/item upgrades/faction grinding/raiding etc.) that makes the game fun in addition to the people. Because you value X more than playing with your friend who is not max level, you feel guilty, and you should, because honestly if he's your friend and you like playing with him, what's to stop you from doing it?

You've got a million silly questions and a hilariously far-out answer for a problem that exists only for those few people who cannot reconcile their self-interest with their desire to play with their friends. The fact is, that problem simply DOES NOT EXIST for most people, as they either sack up and miss out on farming that third primal life to help their friend clear stratholme, or they say "F him, he should be in HFP grinding orcs anyways".

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Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.

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