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Due to the Ashtongue trinket being "only" 40%, there's no guarentee that it would always be up. Add to that the massive differential between Shred and Mangle in both base and scaling damage - one getting ((x*1.6)+0.65y)*1.1*1.2 = 2.112x+0.85y and the other getting ((x*2.25)+y)*1.1*1.3 = 3.2175x+1.43y - and it just won't work. Assuming you get 400 extra AP from the idol and the trinket, you'd gain approximately 143 total damage on rip, with the 4t6 bonus.
The difference is just too much even with every bonus you can think of added (2t6, 4t6, idol of terror, ashtongue talisman are all that I can think of).
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