Originally Posted by Errelno
This is still a bad argument and it's a little frustrating that you don't seem to be catching on. I'd explain to you again why saying that paladins have it better than resto shaman doesn't really mean anything, but I'd just be repeating myself(like you're doing).
Also, I don't really see this paladin dominance that you seem to be referring to. When looking at the top of most 3v3 ladders I'm seeing very few paladins. There's 1 paladin the top 10 3v3 teams for bg9 (the team from frostwolf is pointfed, so I'm not counting that). Furthermore, as people stated, looking at the tops of arena ladders to determine class balance isn't really a good idea. Queue dodging, point feeding, luck, and player base are all factors which throw off your measuring stick significantly. You're twisting words when you say, "I don't think every top paladin team got there by dodging/feeding." The problem is that there are a lot of teams who got there that way.
Most battlegroups are also going to have a lot of strong PvP Paladins(they were incredibly strong in S1) who are well-networked into good teams. On Mal'Ganis, for example, there's a bunch of paladins who play arenas competitively, but when you look at hunters there's basically one in the entire battlegroup. When a patch like 2.3 hits, you'll still see a number of paladins doing pretty well, but you still won't see many hunters.
I guess it's just an issue where people keep claiming there are all these paladins doing well, but as somebody with a lot of games played at high levels in bg5 and bg9.............there are VERY few paladins.
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This is getting pointless, you obviously aren't reading anything I've written without some sort of irrational bias, because I never once said Paladins were dominant, I've never said they were fine and l2p, you are knitpicking individual statements out of context to try and make it sound like I'm saying something I'm not. I have repeatedly said that Druids and Priests are better healers, but despite their inherent weaknesses there still are Paladins playing at a high level.
With the way people add and drop teams, queue dodging, trading games, etc. it's hard to know what is accurate, but if this site is close correct:
Arena Team Setup Statistics - World of Warcraft Realm History it shows that Paladins (at least right now), still have a place in 2v2 and 3v3. That is all I am saying. This is not like Spoh, or that one hunter in 3v3, or the one Enhancement Shaman who broke 2300, at least 23% of teams over 2200 in 3v3 have a Paladin.
As I have (repeatedly now) said, we'll have to wait until S3 to see how this plays out. The worse thing is, I have agreed with what everyone is saying, all I've said is that it's not as bad as a few people have made it out, and for that we've now derailed what could be a good thread for two pages now. Paladins have issues, we all agree, can we move on now please?