Originally Posted by Cortney
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oroVZxgz0rcf0gRxVhb0o
This is what our class lead has posted for fire to run come the patch. I am writing a comparison up between that build, 2/47/11 +1, and 10/47/3 +1. I think I can explain the 1% damage loss, 1% crit loss and mana reduction to fire, 2% crit loss to scorch and fire blast, and the mana lost due to crit.
Could someone help me understand how 2/3 scorch will affect the fight or point me in the right direction to research?
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What does your 10/40/11 build achieve?
You get Icy Veins. Good. But you loose essential fire talents. Not good.
Icy veins is a 2-2.5% gain, you lose 1% damage and 1% crit and 1% mana efficiency (PWF/Pyro). I'd rather drop the second point of Incinerate and go for full 3/3 Imp. Scorch.
It's pretty hard to model, but it means that a 15% damage buff will randomly fall off, or you spend too much resources keeping it up.
In any build with Clearcasting and Icy Veins, you lose more from the points in fire than you'll gain from Icy Veins. you'll always lose 1 point in PWF and 1 in PWF or Pyromaniac, so you lose what you gain.