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Skyhoof - have you ever tried MSD?
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No, but I have tried the Scarab of the Infinite Cycle. It’s the same concept. About once per minute, you can cast spells faster. One spell with MSD, as many as you can get off in 6 seconds with the Scarab. I understand why you and others like it. It’s clear that myself and other healers prefer consistency over lucky procs. Believe me, if the Scarab was an on-use trinket that you could activate on a two-minute cooldown, we would all be using it. Time to move this discussion along.
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I'm glad it's added to the OP. The OP description however leaves traces of a none objective view on the gem imho
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Working as intended.
Originally Posted by Vema
While the tooltip of the spell still says "2% Chance" I believe that this meta was changed in 2.3 to be 5%. Both Thott and Wowhead list the same, both being 5%. If it was changed this meta-gem seems significantly more valuable.
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Yes, I’ve heard the same thing. However, I cannot find anything in the patch notes or a blue post. We do know that they increased the proc rate of the Mystical Skyfire Diamond. Does anyone know where Thott and Wowhead get their data for proc rates?
I looked at some WWS for a few recent fights. In one, the gem procced 5 times. I cast 100 heals, dropped 11 totems, cast Bloodlust once, activated a trinket twice and cast water shield and Earth Shield a few times. The fight was about 6 minutes long so I got back roughly 20.8 mp5 and it proced about 4.3% of the time.
In another fight, I got 3 procs. I cast 98 heals, dropped 5 totems, cast Bloodlust once and water shield a few times. That fight lasted about 4.5 minutes. So I got back 16.6 mp5 and it proced about 4.7% of the time.
That seems to be consistent with the 5% proc rate listed on Thott and Wowhead.
Ok, now let’s look at the entire raid – a much longer span of time. It procced 46 times. I cast 1,403 heals. I also got Prayer of Mending 12 times and Lifebloom 17 times but I don’t know if that counts. I dropped 145 totems. I cast Bloodlust 9 times. I cast Totemic Call 11 times. NS 3 times (if that counts). And water shield at least 17 times (probably more like 25) and Earth Shield an unknown number of times. That’s a minimum of 46/1585. So that’s 2.9% proc. If I count the PoM and Lifebloom and the procs themselves (because it can proc off itself), it procced 2.7% of the time.
Generally, the more data you have, the more accurate the result. I would tend to think data from an entire night of raiding (4 hours) would be closer to the actual figure than a single fight that lasts 6 minutes. That would put the proc rate around 3% (although there’s enough margin for error that it could really still be 2%).
Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
While the itemization isn't quite as absurd for this as it used to be, Tidal Mastery is a damn good place to spend 5 points if you're already spending 3/3 in Ancestral Healing, which you should be. I wouldn't spec 8/0/53 without it. The 25% AC boost that this proc provides will typically provide a good deal more AC than an Ironshield potion. In my current Kara-level gear, an AH proc is worth 3750 AC while an Ironshield is only 2500, and any raid tank can tell you how Ironshields save their ass. It doesn't seem like a lot, but 5% more crit across 3 shamans in the raid trying to get a 15% proc goes a very long way indeed.
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Excellent point and well said. Basically took your post and added it to the talent description of Tidal Mastery.
Nature’s Guardian: Revised Description
Tidal Mastery: Revised Description
Shield Enchants: Added +18 Stamina. Thud00 makes an excellent point that shaman get their mana from mp5, not having a large initial mana pool. I still think +12 Intellect is a good enchant but so is +18 Stamina. I actually have +12 Intellect on my main shield and +18 Stamina on a secondary shield that I use for fights where I need more health.
Added Healbot to mods and plan to give it a try myself in the next week or so. Sounds interesting.
Added the trick of using Totem of the Maelstrom and Rank 1 Healing Wave to proc Ancestral Fortitude and regen outside of the 5-second rule.
I did not have a chance to digest the T2 numbers posted but I can't wait to delve into them -- after at least 3 cups of coffee.
EDIT: I get the following message when I click on the link for the spreadsheet: We're sorry, [myemail] does not have permission to access this spreadsheet.