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on bloodscalp-eu there are only a handfull of guilds on my (horde) side that have the ability to clear ZA. Even though you still need a more then decent group to do so :/ Karazhan on the other hand is a walk in the park for any kind of setup, any starting raiding guild can get decent epics there and the amount of badges you can get in a 2 hour clear is insane.
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