Originally Posted by Lianya
A couple of questions.
1. In the cookie-cutter specs, I see 1 point put in to Improved Corruption, but I'm not sure why this is done. I'm guessing something to do with the GCD? I tried searching the thread but wasn't able to find an answer. If I missed it, I apologize.
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If you spend 5 points it becomes instant, but because of the global cooldown you can't cast anything else for 1.5 seconds anyway. Just spending one point makes it 1.6s casting time, meaning that in standard "stand and nuke" fights you get almost the same benefit for just one talent point. I haven't gone with this myself, using the exact spec listed with a succubus, when I tried demonology with a succubus and a very specialised "only good at Leo" spec for learning the fight. Spending the point on corruption instead of crit depends on taste more than anything.
Originally Posted by Lianya
2. Other than for Leotheras, when I'm doing normal DPS, What is a good spell rotation? I've been Affliction almost the entire time I've been end-game raiding BC content. Would I bother to throw Corruption up anymore? Should it be something like "Curse --> Corruption --> Immolate --> Shadow bolt"?
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That sounds about right, although whether immolate and corruption are worth it depends on your gear and raid composition. Make sure they do more damage per casting time than shadowbolt before including them in your cast rotation. Judging by your progression, I'm guessing they are.
Originally Posted by Lianya
I was considering something like this, which is a tad different than the listed specs, but wasn't sure if it was a good or bad idea, and if I was missing out on some stuff by not taking the other suggested talents.
Proposed spec
Also, if there is anything I should know about Leo that you think is interesting, please let me know. I've read up on the fight and I think I know what to do, but personal experience can always be a better teacher.
Thanks a bunch. So far, these forums have been an amazing source of info and have really helped me to change my play style / gear choices. |
I strongly recommend not using a succubus for demo unless you have T5 2piece and/or the trinket. She dies a LOT. Using a felguard will be a lot less complicated, especially if you're not going to be this spec forever.
About Leotheras:
He alternates between 45 seconds human phase and 60 seconds demon phase. The first human phase is an exception, it lasts 60 seconds (counting from when he unbanishes)
Warlock dps on Leo:
During human phase: whirlwind every 12 seconds, with 15 seconds cooldown on it (I think, I might be a few seconds off here, it's been a long while since I tanked Leo)
- when he breaks or resets aggro you want to start applying dots (corr/CoA/immolate in that order). This is both so you don't draw aggro by nuking before the tank has aggro, and because it will allow them to run out before the 27+ second cycle finishes.
During demon phase: apply dots at the start, refresh them once. SB as filler.
Warlock tanking at Leo:
focus on 365 FR (70 aura, 70 demonology, so 225 FR on gear is capped). Everything else in stamina. 14000+ health is recommended. Spellpower is useful but should not be priority. You can easily compensate for it with consumables.
Soulstones on the tanking warlock are a tremendous help. Due to the nature of the fight, if you die near the end of demon phase this allows the raid to recover, since you'll be ready by next phase. It was not uncommon for me to die once of twice on successful kills if Leo got lucky with no-resist streaks. Note that due to the stacking debuff, random people swallowing one or two bolts tend to live. Also, you are most likely to die near the end of the demon phase.
Spam Searing pain for threat. Use Curse of doom for initial aggro. It's incredibly good for it. Apply it when he unbanishes (first phase = 60 seconds), and during every demon phase with 13 seconds on the clock until human phase (13s + 45s human phase = 58 seconds, with a two second margin).
I bet you will forget COD the first few times you do this, as refreshing the CoD while watching your health bounce up and down like a yoyo is usually the last thing on your mind. Still it is definitely worth it, as 9k damage the first 2 seconds extra tends to give you a wide margin, allowing dps to go nearly all out from the start.
Have the raid time their dps so he goes below 15% at the START of the demon phase. It is definitely worth holding dps to do it, as it will ensure two things:
a. no inner demons will be up.
b. it allows Leo to be hit during the emote, allowing for 5 seconds of threat free dps. He's not targeteable if he does the emote in human phase. Do make sure people hold dps right after emote and get away because he can WW right off the bat. His WW can still be on cooldown from human phase, but even then, have people run off and let the tank get solid aggro.
At the last 15%:
Things tend to get hectic as you're tanking the demon. Make sure you do NOT get Mending, Lifebloom final tics, or Earth Shield at this stage. Leotheras resets aggro after each WW, and you can very easily get aggro on him if those things proc on the wrong time. Tanking both Leotheras and his demon at the same time is not advisable, unless you're Chuck Norris.
Apply a CoD and dots on the demon. If you die and get ressed/use SS, you can easily get him back that way. You won't have buffs, but you won't have debuffs either, buying your raid extra time.
And obviously, use searing totem. It's godly in this fight.
Alternate strategy:
If you have two warlocks with high FR, you can have a spare tank, which tends to make the fight less random. You can also do a "hand off" mid demon phase, allowing the debuffs to be spread between both tanks. This will make healing the demon damage a breeze. It requires two very aware warlocks and really good communication, though. And a warlock able to kill a demon even in FR gear (affliction locks in gimped gear might have issues).
All of these are just guidelines, of course. There are plenty of ways to do Leotheras and win.