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Old 02/07/08, 12:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
javelin
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To be fair, when did I ever say, "We should go back to 40 man raids with consumable lists that take a whole column of my screen and demand an exact raid lineup down to the individual specs." I don't think there's a soul here that doesn't think the revisions to consumables was not the best thing Blizzard ever did for raiding. I was herb/alch and I got down on my knees and thanked God for smacking some sense into Blizzard over it.

I don't ever recall saying not doing this would hurt WoW. I DID say, that doing something like this might help, though. I'm not sure how this turned into a 25 vs. 40 fight, but that's long since over, and I personally think it's great.

And no, LBRS and UBRS, and BRD and Strat and Scholo didn't teach what a raid was like, simply because the encounters were not on the same level of difficulty. They were places to go to get quick gear so you COULD go to the places with the challenges in them. Any group of retards back in vanilla could get through an instance with minimal difficulty, but those tards showed their colors when they hit a raid, simply because they never had to learn to do things the right way in the 5-mans and couldn't see how doing things differently was necessary, and ended up as your 15 extra retard slots. Heroics fundamentally teach you very little, other than gear makes a difference, and aggro is bad. They are meant to be exactly what old 5-mans were: a place to get gear so you can go to raids. After all, if 5-mans taught you all you needed to know to be successful in end-game encounters, there would have been many MANY more people through AQ40 and Naxx pre-expansion, and many MANY more people nearing completion of TK and working well through BT now, right? Especially now, since the basic time and energy requirements of raiding has been dramatically decreased thanks to the consumables revisions. How come it's not then?

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Meant mostly for Ailetha.

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