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Old 02/14/08, 1:04 PM   #253 (permalink)
Pyros
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Originally Posted by Anias View Post
Wraith - you're (at a minimum) ignoring why I want player training to be examined:

There are a load of non-trivial tasks in wow that are not at all intuitive from the game. Hunter shot rotations? Game sucks ass as making them clear. Warlock dot rotations? Game sucks ass at making them clear. Warrior threat rotations? Game sucks ass at making it clear. How to heal and conserve your mana? Not automaticly obvious.
The issue I have with your argument is this pretty much. You don't need to know these to be able to raid early content, and most likely if you can't be bothered to read the official forum sticky about your class, you're not gonna have time to devote to raiding more than early stuff(so karazhan in our case, or MC back in the days), or you're not going to want spending that time raiding. To me it is as simple as this.

Hunter shot rotations are not needed. Dot rotations are not needed(do dot rotations even exist, last time I played a lock I just casted new spells when last one wore off, that's just common sense, not a rotation). Threat rotations are not needed, you press the key when they light up and automatically get into a rotation that's close to the perfect one, barring heroic strikes on every hit and shield block all the time. You don't have to know how to heal and conserve your mana, spamming heals works just fine if you drink potions or if you're not a shaman.

All these technics become useful as you raid harder content, but it doesn't mean they're necessary to start raiding, or do 5mans or heroics. For the casuals, all these mechanics are not needed. Would they improve their play? Probably. Are they well hidden that only a handful of hardcore raiders know them? They're all over the official boards, the wow wiki and you can even google them.

If you really think a tutorial would help people grasp concepts without actually stating those concepts with words, in my opinion, you're wrong. And if you're going to word the concepts, you might as well skip the tutorial part and just have some kind of compendium thingie, like the warhammer book of whatever, that has a special part entitled Raiding Tips, and that gives class tips about how to max your efficiency.

Again I really doubt that people will do a tutorial just because it's there. You compared it to quests, but people don't do quests because they want to discover their character. They do quests because it's the easiest and fastest way to level in wow, it gives xp, money and items. There's a solid reward. You really think the same people who can't even read their quest log and find out where to go would bother doing tutorials that have no rewards but teaching them how to play their character?
 
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