Originally Posted by Promethius

One minor issue that I've found, and excuse me if this was accounted for in this list by the fact that not everyone is a JC, is that RAWR does not have the correct stats on Hard Khorium Choker, namely that it's missing the gem slot. Using a relatively optimal melee group and most standard raid armor debuffs shows the choker gemmed with glinting pyrestone ahead of Clutch of Demise. Also, depending on if and how Shoulders of Vehemence are changed, the fact that the choker satisfies a yellow requirement for meta could allow for higher DPS without the use of T4. The alt Shoulders of Vehemence Astrylian put in combined with Duplicitous Guise have significant enough stats to overcome the T4 set bonus, and puts overall "missed" attacks much closer to 0%. Regardless though, in terms of raid distribution of gear, the minor DPS increase (if any) of these two sunwell pieces probably doesn't outweigh the fact of already having T4.