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faight · 03/03/08, 3:26 AM

I think the main solution to old content becoming discarded is heroics.

For everything.

Level 70's in epics wiping in Heroic Wailing Caverns? Yes please. This would get a lot of people to run these old instances again, make use of old content so Blizzard doesn't have to create new models/etc, and create a ton of interesting new encounters.

Also heroic strath/scholo should return to their old 10 or 15 man raid status. I can't remember which was which, I had just started playing around the time they were nerfed. This could be included in the expansion, with the "lore" reason being that Arthas pumped up all the lower level bosses with magic or something.

But honestly, I hate the fact that I never got to the end of BWL or Naxx or AQ20/40. My guild just never progressed that far. We made a lot of attempts, but being that we were casual raiders we rarely, if ever, got to the end of these when the instances were still viable for their gear. The only solution I can see to this is making normal and heroics for everything, including 10 and 25 man raids. This is along the lines of what someone posted on the first page, but I think an "easy" mode would just be lame. This allows for gear that's mediocre to drop in the normal versions which are much easier to complete, allows for "casual" raiders to complete content they wouldn't otherwise get to see, and would give them access to equipment that could be used to complete the heroic version of the instance when they gather enough of it up and have learned the encounters pretty well that the heroic version wouldn't be that much harder. It would just take longer for them, since the hardcore people would run the normal version a few times to get some gear, then use their superior skill and coordination to complete the heroic mode well before the casual raiders and get a bigger jump in gear.

Also, you could make it so that you couldn't fight the "final" boss in the normal mode. Normal BT? No Illidan. Just a sign at the end saying "Congratulations, you completed normal mode, now try heroic!" sort of like the old NES games that pulled that.

I guess I'm just sore because I missed out on a lot of really good content due to work/school/real life/etc and I never had the time to put in to getting in to a guild that would run these things.

03/03/08, 3:26 AM	#137 (permalink)
faight Glass Joe Greenbriar Orc Shaman <Clockwork> Blackrock	I think the main solution to old content becoming discarded is heroics. For everything. Level 70's in epics wiping in Heroic Wailing Caverns? Yes please. This would get a lot of people to run these old instances again, make use of old content so Blizzard doesn't have to create new models/etc, and create a ton of interesting new encounters. Also heroic strath/scholo should return to their old 10 or 15 man raid status. I can't remember which was which, I had just started playing around the time they were nerfed. This could be included in the expansion, with the "lore" reason being that Arthas pumped up all the lower level bosses with magic or something. But honestly, I hate the fact that I never got to the end of BWL or Naxx or AQ20/40. My guild just never progressed that far. We made a lot of attempts, but being that we were casual raiders we rarely, if ever, got to the end of these when the instances were still viable for their gear. The only solution I can see to this is making normal and heroics for everything, including 10 and 25 man raids. This is along the lines of what someone posted on the first page, but I think an "easy" mode would just be lame. This allows for gear that's mediocre to drop in the normal versions which are much easier to complete, allows for "casual" raiders to complete content they wouldn't otherwise get to see, and would give them access to equipment that could be used to complete the heroic version of the instance when they gather enough of it up and have learned the encounters pretty well that the heroic version wouldn't be that much harder. It would just take longer for them, since the hardcore people would run the normal version a few times to get some gear, then use their superior skill and coordination to complete the heroic mode well before the casual raiders and get a bigger jump in gear. Also, you could make it so that you couldn't fight the "final" boss in the normal mode. Normal BT? No Illidan. Just a sign at the end saying "Congratulations, you completed normal mode, now try heroic!" sort of like the old NES games that pulled that. I guess I'm just sore because I missed out on a lot of really good content due to work/school/real life/etc and I never had the time to put in to getting in to a guild that would run these things.