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Old 03/07/08, 5:15 PM   #159 (permalink)
Nezralix
Bald Bull
 
Orc Warrior
 
Burning Blade
Originally Posted by Anedris View Post
The problem with making sunder give the same threat as devastate is... what's the point of devastate? Warriors complained for a long time that devastate was a lacklustre 41-point talent. Now it's finally a solid capstone to the tanking tree.
The only thing that's really changed about Devastate is that it was made to apply the Sunder debuff as well, thus making it a replacement to Sunder instead of an awkward corollary to it. Its core threat is the same as it was before, once the five Sunders are applied.

The threat difference isn't particularly important; it's the much lower rage cost (as compared to Arms/Fury Sunders), minor scaling with damage, and ability to crit that set it apart.

Frankly, I'd be happy if they ditched Sunder altogether, for all the reasons listed above. Too much rage for what it does, too little fixed threat, no scaling, no ability to crit, and requires too much time to get a full stack going. It's terrible that it's persisted for so long as the core "non-Prot" tanking skill.

But it's abundantly clear that they have no good ideas for how to make a class have a "tanking tree" without completely nullifying the tanking capacity of players in other specs. You just can't pack a tree full of "increases threat by X%" talents without neutering trees that don't have them.
 
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