Originally Posted by Phlis
My point was that what he wants he cannot achieve. It has nothing to do with Lore, or amount of time spent. I raid 3 nights a week, 5 hours on those nights. I have a job, and a life. I've killed Illidan. One has nothing to do with the other. You cannot get the same vibe from a PuG 5 man that you get from Raiding. Ever. It has nothing to do with difficulty of encounters, number of people, or time spent. It's about forging a team from random people, those people become your friends, sharing their frustration and joy. If you don't want the MM from an MMO, you will never feel that. I'm sorry. Go play different games. This isn't for you.
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It's interesting that you should equate the "MM" part of "MMO" with raiding. The huge, non-instanced part of WoW defines it much more as an MMORPG than the raiding segment, which might as well be a large Quake server. I could just as easily say that WoW isn't for you.