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Old 03/15/08, 9:16 AM   #828 (permalink)
Graul
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Originally Posted by Shha View Post
Well graul way i see it potency=22str with kings.

With uptime i calculated (30%) mongoose is 40 agi with kings and around 12haste for me, for OH that is.

I honestly doubt i have THAT much downtime. IN straight numbers, 40 agi = 34 str. 12 haste = 18 str.

Mongoose provides 52 str equivalent on a straight tank and spank. Are you suggesting my effective downtime is 60% of dps time? I doubt it. Granted with the numbers from spreadsheet (22% uptime). Mongoose is only around 39 st equivalent. But even then, 20 str vs 39 seems way more then downtime would support.
30% uptime on a "tank and spank" fight. Notice that I said not every fight allows you to sit there on a target for 100% of the time, nor are you even always allowed to hit something, even when not having to move? There is also more to a raid than simply doing the max possible DPS given the most Warrior friendly encounters disregarding everything else. If that is all you are interested in, then I'm sure those numbers will help with your cause. I'm not arguing what would work on paper and in a vacuum, but raids are a bit more dynamic than that. Similarly it's also why being an Arms build on trash is so infuriating sometimes.

To the person talking about potency offhand. I'm sorry, but thats just garbage. Potency is a cheap fix, but definitly the worse of your 3 enchant options.
It has nothing to do with the cost. And the people that keep replying to my comment seem to be omitting specific points. Like I said, I'm not arguing about what has the potential to do the best DPS for specific fights. You keep looking at it as though there are zero variables at all in raiding. You never get stunned or CC'd, you never have to run out of AE or even run out and bandage. You never have a proc happen, but then can't reach your target until it only has a few seconds left etc. Just because your uptime is a specific %, that doesn't mean it's actually being used the entire time it's up. And if you want to get technical about what the spreadsheet says, it shows Mongoose on my off hand as being a whopping 10 DPS more than Potency, and that's assuming 100% usage of it's uptime.

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