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Shha · 03/15/08, 5:40 PM

Well , im looking into it now, now that you said. What I did to claim its not modelled is simple.

Step 1) I added mongoose to the weapon and observed how the agility cell changes.
Step 2) I took away mongoose replacing with nothing, and changed the appropriate agility field to get same value in agility cell.
Step 3) I compared dps, from step 1 and 2

In case of grim/niuta spreadsheet it seems to be exactly same in step 3, which supports the lack of haste.

As for SEP values, yea my bad. I used my SEP values from sheet i kept the best sunwell gear, instead of the current one.
Haste for my "target gear" is at 1.51SEP , and agility is around 0.83str and 0.73 crit.
In current set with all consumables/buffs (like most of the time for me), Haste is only at 1.21 str (And yes its 2nd best stat past ArP, better then crit/ap/str , which is somehow normal at this point - I consider my setup best non-warglaive possible, and haste ramps up with gear), Agility is around 0.74 crit (crit is almost=str).

With these values in mind its more like 30 str for agility, and 14.5 for haste. 44.5 then.

Haste has not been a "bad" stat ever, and i really cant see the point when it would be only worth 0.8 SeP. It surpassed str/crit quiet a while ago for me.

03/15/08, 5:40 PM	#833 (permalink)
Shha Don Flamenco Shha Night Elf Warrior <Oblivion> Gorgonnash	Well , im looking into it now, now that you said. What I did to claim its not modelled is simple. Step 1) I added mongoose to the weapon and observed how the agility cell changes. Step 2) I took away mongoose replacing with nothing, and changed the appropriate agility field to get same value in agility cell. Step 3) I compared dps, from step 1 and 2 In case of grim/niuta spreadsheet it seems to be exactly same in step 3, which supports the lack of haste. As for SEP values, yea my bad. I used my SEP values from sheet i kept the best sunwell gear, instead of the current one. Haste for my "target gear" is at 1.51SEP , and agility is around 0.83str and 0.73 crit. In current set with all consumables/buffs (like most of the time for me), Haste is only at 1.21 str (And yes its 2nd best stat past ArP, better then crit/ap/str , which is somehow normal at this point - I consider my setup best non-warglaive possible, and haste ramps up with gear), Agility is around 0.74 crit (crit is almost=str). With these values in mind its more like 30 str for agility, and 14.5 for haste. 44.5 then. Haste has not been a "bad" stat ever, and i really cant see the point when it would be only worth 0.8 SeP. It surpassed str/crit quiet a while ago for me.