Originally Posted by landsoul
If only the DST threat was more than just mindless speculation... what I really would love to see is a screenshot of a combat log with the buff coming up 10-15 seconds after it faded. that would be hot.
If thats true, then uptimes on hidden cooldown items will start going up and numbers will shift and maybe bump around certain SEP rankings with these items equipped.
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I can say that , i tested DST as throughly as blacksmithing hammer. Ive NEVER seen it proc less then 25 sec after it faded. On other hand the proc rate is pretty insane , and in raids it comes uplike 1-3 seconds after the cooldown is over.
Isnt it just a semantic discussion though? Just say that dragonspine has 35 sec cooldown and you can use it as it worked from the moment the buff is applied. Its exactly the same for all purposes.
Anyway . if you have a trinket that procs every single time within like 25-28 seconds from fading, it makes it obvious for me that would the cooldown be shorter, it would have procced earlier over hundreds of procs i tested. But no, not a single time I had a proc under 25 sec from fading.
Dragonspine should be pretty easy to model too, given the huge proc rate/hidden cooldown, its very very reliable and over longer fights it stays really close to the teorethical 10/25+10 = 28.6%. In fact it often surpasses it slightly early on (because the proc sort of "comes first", so unless you look at uptime meter just as hidden cooldown is over, the proc time will be more then average).