Originally Posted by Elendril
You're really not going to learn to be a 2k team playing 10 games a week, and you're certainly not going to learn how to be a 2k team if you're NOT facing 2k caliber teams. If anything, playing against tougher teams is better at preparing you for that level of competition. It's hardly "impossible" to beat a team because they have two slots with better gear than you, and playing them is certainly far from a waste of time if your goal is to "learn to become a 2k team".
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Well, first of all, the druid is still wearing greens. Playing more than 10 games a week won't accomplish anything at this moment in time. We're not moving up because of gear right now, not because of lack of skill.
Second of all, we figure that while we're gearing up, that gives ample time to teach the druid how to do what he needs to do. Starting from ground zero on PvP gear takes a LONG while to get up to speed equipment wise. Plenty of time to get geared up skill wise.
Third, it doesn't really matter how many games we play, the rough breakdown is the same. Some easy wins, some hard wins, a similar amount of hard losses, and the steamrolls. You never avoid them. It's gladiator teams rerolling or playing in a different bracket. We saw this stuff all the way up to where we stopped in the 1700's in S2, it's not going to go away. If we lose 60 points in 3 games once an hour that ruins any progress we've made up to that point, and after several weeks of that same behavior you get kind of disenfranchised with the whole system. I'm not supposed to be playing Gladiators. There's a reason Gladiators are Gladiators and a reason I'm not. They're better than me. I'm not ever supposed to be matched up with them and I'm certainly not supposed to be losing massive points to them. Call it what you want, but the system is broken and I for one am sick of dealing with it. Hence my lax attitude towards the whole ordeal. There's no point in playing more than 10 games a week for points because today might be the day you lose 100 rating in an hour and ruin the last 2 weeks of work. Not worth my time. The system would be fine if every so often I got to curbstomp some guys in greens for 20 points a game, but it doesn't work that way. It does however, work the opposite way. I outrate guys in greens, but guys with more skill/experience/playtime can come back through the midlevel brackets whenever they want.
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Originally Posted by Malthrin
You make it sound like you hope playing with a Druid will be a magic bullet to get you to 1850. That simply isn't the case - nor should it be. It's a complicated class, be patient with your partner (and yourself). Whether a well-played Druid is too strong is a completely different issue, of course (they are) - I just hope you aren't expecting unreasonable things from your team. Good luck on the way to 1850.
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Oh no, I have reasonable expectations. I'm not thinking that I've got a druid now, easy street to 2k. What my questions earlier in the thread were in regards to is what teammate should I be working on getting up to snuff? In S1, War/Pal was fine. People really learned how to deal with paladins in S2 and that started being less of an option. In late S2 and now S3, if you (generally) weren't with a druid, you weren't getting anywhere. Druids are still sitting with basically only one counter, and it belongs to a class that has started to fall off the radar in the small brackets. I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time getting a druid geared up just to see that someone else eclipse them.