Originally Posted by malthrin
However, I don't think you're doing yourself any credit by blaming all your losses on Gladiator rerolls. Unless you see the Gladiator title in front of their name, they are probably just bad players in good gear. I dislike the welfare epics label, but it is true that a couple seasons of mediocrity will give you 90% of the top gear - and you can buy the rest. There's a reason these teams are at your rating - despite their gear, they are making exploitable mistakes. Maybe it's just me being over-competitive, but during our push to 1850, I never ran into a team that was completely out of our league. We certainly got our ass handed to us more than a few times, but there was always something we could have done better..
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Well, whatever you guys wanna say to defend that behavior. I have personally seen the top 2's team in our BG's playing at 1600 on 3's. I ask him what the hell he's doing at 1600 and I get a "Lol, trying something new." I've seen the number 9 2's War/Dru on the battlegroup add a paladin and play though the lower level 3's bracket as well. I've seen a 2k 5's team reroll because they "Don't like their name." You absolutely can not tell me that this stuff doesn't happen on a daily basis because I see it every day. They're not bad players with good gear, those people are easily spotted. We run several teams with our alts, and our blue dungeon geared team beats full pvp gear teams if they're horrible. They are top geared/skilled players who either got bored and put another 100g down to curbstomp 1500's for a couple hours or they're selling points. Either way, it destroys the "true" rating of any team who's not buying points, and more games does not help reset your "true" rating because this is not an isolated incident. It happens every day.
Could we learn something from playing a team much better than us? Sure. That's completely true, I can't argue that. Should this ever be happening in the first place? No, that's completely wrong, and no one should be able to argue that either. The ELO system breaks down when teams from the top are able to reform at their leisure and sell points on as many charters a week as they can play.
Originally Posted by Delta5
The times you really do not want to face these re-roll teams is when you are trying to get over the 1850 mark for the first time, we got lucky and only lost 3 points in the game in this situation and got it next game but running into 3 gladiator teams at 1840 and ending back at 1800 is extremely frustrating as your short term goal is more important for you than the long term one.
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That'd be every time prior to this point. That's pretty much the crux of my frustration. It's 2 steps forward and 3 steps back every other week.