Originally Posted by Elendril
You're drastically overestimating the impact of gladiator rerolls and point selling on the arena experience I think. Do they happen? Obviously. But are they a full 30% of the teams you're going to face at low to mid ratings? Not even close. Your view on this is clearly colored by your frustration toward particular incidents. If someone crushes you, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're a gladiator reroll team at all - I play 2s with a RL paladin friend on my warrior at about 1700 rating. My warrior also has a 2250 5s rating, but our 2s team is actually 1700 - it's not a point selling team, and it's not a gladiator reroll, but I have a shiny weapon that's sure to frustrate people I kill with it at that rating. Is the fact that I can play with a lesser skilled friend and dominate some of the teams we come across indicative of a broken system? If you were only allowed to play 10 games a week, maybe the few games you get against legitimate reroll teams would make a significant impact on your rating, but realistically there aren't that many of them and if they're beating everyone as they should they'll be out of your bracket quickly. Take your losses and queue up again and move on.
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I'm sorry that you don't think a 2250 team playing at 1700 isn't a gladiator reroll team. Sorry I'm not being clear enough in the distinction, but there is a MASSIVE difference between a 2250 caliber player and a 1700. If you're not a gladiator, big deal. Semantics. You get the point. If you want to argue that it's fine that a 2250 team can do that, but since it's not technically a "Gladiator" then fine, whatever.
And are these teams 30%? Probably not. But you end up facing them 3 times almost always. 19 point loss, 16 point loss, 14 point loss and then you just stop queuing because they've dropped your rating 50 points without trying. If we were to win, we'd get 11 points for beating them because they're 1500 now and they were 2300 yesterday. It's unacceptable and it's a problem with the system. I'm sure it doesn't look like a problem with the system to you, you're benefitting from it. You get to beat lower skilled players for more points. I get to lose to better players and lose massive rating for doing so. If that's not a flawed system, then I don't know what is.
All I want is your personal rating to have some bearing in the system, and stop letting people reset that down to 1500 whenever they want. There is no reason ever that some of the players we see should be 1500. Make your personal rating stick with you, make you earn arena points off your personal rating, and pair teams based upon the average PR of the team as well as awarding win/loss points based upon the personal rating differences and you've got a much fairer system that is much harder to manipulate in an aggravating manner to the lower bracket.
As it stands, I don't really care what you say. You can downplay it all you want, but I've been seeing this crap the entirety of my experience in the arena (since S2 started), and I'm never going to buy into that argument. Maybe your battlegroup doesn't have this problem. Maybe mine is particularly shitty for this. Either way, it's a big issue impeding anyone who's not playing a no skill/overpowered combo in the arena.