Originally Posted by TheCutlery
I'm sorry that you don't think a 2250 team playing at 1700 isn't a gladiator reroll team. Sorry I'm not being clear enough in the distinction, but there is a MASSIVE difference between a 2250 caliber player and a 1700. If you're not a gladiator, big deal. Semantics. You get the point. If you want to argue that it's fine that a 2250 team can do that, but since it's not technically a "Gladiator" then fine, whatever.
And are these teams 30%? Probably not. But you end up facing them 3 times almost always. 19 point loss, 16 point loss, 14 point loss and then you just stop queuing because they've dropped your rating 50 points without trying. If we were to win, we'd get 11 points for beating them because they're 1500 now and they were 2300 yesterday. It's unacceptable and it's a problem with the system. I'm sure it doesn't look like a problem with the system to you, you're benefitting from it. You get to beat lower skilled players for more points. I get to lose to better players and lose massive rating for doing so. If that's not a flawed system, then I don't know what is.
All I want is your personal rating to have some bearing in the system, and stop letting people reset that down to 1500 whenever they want. There is no reason ever that some of the players we see should be 1500. Make your personal rating stick with you, make you earn arena points off your personal rating, and pair teams based upon the average PR of the team as well as awarding win/loss points based upon the personal rating differences and you've got a much fairer system that is much harder to manipulate in an aggravating manner to the lower bracket.
As it stands, I don't really care what you say. You can downplay it all you want, but I've been seeing this crap the entirety of my experience in the arena (since S2 started), and I'm never going to buy into that argument. Maybe your battlegroup doesn't have this problem. Maybe mine is particularly shitty for this. Either way, it's a big issue impeding anyone who's not playing a no skill/overpowered combo in the arena.
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It's hard to read your posts and keep an objective view when you sound like such a crybaby.
If you stop queueing just because you lost 3 games in a row it's pretty indicative of your outlook. You think that sometimes even people playing at 2250+ don't lose 3 games in a row?
I will not pretend I've played above the 1750 rating. Because I haven't. But I know I will, as I've only been playing arena for 1 month and only with random strangers I've met and built a relationship with. And this past week we went 10-0 and it was clear we've learned quite a bit from reading here, watching videos posted here and using our own past experience to build from.
If you don't want to put in the effort, suck up the losses and keep trying you will never rise above. That's the nature of any competition. It sounds to me like you came to elitist jerks, heard some people talk about warrior/druid being ez-mode and rolled it hoping to skate to 1850+.
You didn't take into consideration that a majority of the people who come here are above average players and what might be easy for them may be very far from easy for the larger majority. Just because you run a druid/warrior 2v2 doesn't mean you can press 2 buttons and win every match. In fact there are certain comps that are a huge uphill battle even as druid/warrior. Frost mage/ret paladin and spriest/rogue are 2 that come to mind. Luckily both of those comps are far from the norm and you will rarely see them. At least from my experience.
Sit back and think about what you're doing wrong and try to fix it rather than whining about it being impossible to win because of re-rolls.