Originally Posted by TheCutlery
I'm sorry that you don't think a 2250 team playing at 1700 isn't a gladiator reroll team. Sorry I'm not being clear enough in the distinction, but there is a MASSIVE difference between a 2250 caliber player and a 1700. If you're not a gladiator, big deal. Semantics. You get the point. If you want to argue that it's fine that a 2250 team can do that, but since it's not technically a "Gladiator" then fine, whatever.
And are these teams 30%? Probably not. But you end up facing them 3 times almost always. 19 point loss, 16 point loss, 14 point loss and then you just stop queuing because they've dropped your rating 50 points without trying. If we were to win, we'd get 11 points for beating them because they're 1500 now and they were 2300 yesterday. It's unacceptable and it's a problem with the system. I'm sure it doesn't look like a problem with the system to you, you're benefitting from it. You get to beat lower skilled players for more points. I get to lose to better players and lose massive rating for doing so. If that's not a flawed system, then I don't know what is.
All I want is your personal rating to have some bearing in the system, and stop letting people reset that down to 1500 whenever they want. There is no reason ever that some of the players we see should be 1500. Make your personal rating stick with you, make you earn arena points off your personal rating, and pair teams based upon the average PR of the team as well as awarding win/loss points based upon the personal rating differences and you've got a much fairer system that is much harder to manipulate in an aggravating manner to the lower bracket.
As it stands, I don't really care what you say. You can downplay it all you want, but I've been seeing this crap the entirety of my experience in the arena (since S2 started), and I'm never going to buy into that argument. Maybe your battlegroup doesn't have this problem. Maybe mine is particularly shitty for this. Either way, it's a big issue impeding anyone who's not playing a no skill/overpowered combo in the arena.
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You're completely missing my point in your crusade to show that the man is keeping you down. Simply because someone is a gladiator or 2k+ rated player in one bracket on one team does not mean that any team they're playing on is similarly of that caliber. I'm not benefiting from some flaw in the system getting me points when I play 2v2 with my friend - the team that we are playing has a bunch of games played and it sits around 1700 rating because THAT IS THE RATING OF US AS A TEAM.
Maybe I'm going to come off as an asshole here, but I'm not sure how else to get this across. This isn't some problem with the system that you're losing to teams that are unfairly playing in your bracket constantly. If you're capped out at 1700 rating, it's not because the system is flawed and you're playing against people who you shouldn't be - it's because your ability to compete is lacking in some way, whether by gear or by skill or by whatever. There is no grand gladiator conspiracy to pick on people and keep them from getting their weapons. There is no man keeping you down. You're not as good as you think you are and you're not good enough to realize that other people can be better than you without it somehow being "unfair". Your initial post was complaining that you can never "learn" to be a 2k team from under 2k anymore, but your attitude in your posts suggests that all you care about is getting your points and not actually learning to improve. It's not the game's fault you're losing, and if you can't recognize that you're never going to get to 2k, especially when you so adamantly refuse to listen to any argument to the contrary.