Originally Posted by Ikajo
Recently, I was doing some own tests on this matter (using Beast Lore to observe effects of Demo Roar, Screech and later Improved Demo Roar) - basically to predict the effect of an added CoW on Maulgar. Surprisingly, my tests seemed to indicate a possible hardcap for AP reduction on mobs. (Test was done on Uvuros - level 70 elite quest mob in Shadowmoon Valley.)
* Base Damage: ----------------------------- 2272-3214 --------- Average: 2743
* Screech (-210ap): ------------------------- 2002-2944 --------- Average: 2473 [-9.84%]
* Demoralizing Roar (-248ap): ------------- 1953-2895 --------- Average: 2424 [-11.63%]
* Improved Demoralizing Roar (-347ap): - 1881-2823 --------- Average: 2352 [-14.25%]
* Screech + Demoralizing Roar: ----------- 1881-2823 --------- Average: 2352 [-14.25%]
* Screech + Improved Demoralizing Roar: 1881-2823 --------- Average: 2352 [-14.25%]
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This comes in nice in line with what is known from various resources on the net concerning ap reduction. Ive made a write up for my guild which I also posted here but I'll put it in here again (Sources are included so look it up for yourself aswell if you want to find out more):
What we know!
Maximum Attack Power Reduction on Raid Bosses:
340AP
Roar, Demoralizing Shout & Curse of Weakness DONT Stack
Screech (Owl/Bat Hunter Pet) is the ONLY AP Reducement Ability that does stack with the above
Attack Power Reduction from Roar:
240AP
Attack Power Reduction from Demoralizing Shout 0/5:
300AP
Attack Power Reduction from Demoralizing Shout 2/5:
348AP
Attack Power Reduction from Demoralizing Shout 5/5:
420AP
Attack Power Reduction from Curse of Weakness 0/2:
350AP
Attack Power Reduction from Screech (Rank 5):
210AP
Attack Power Increase from Curse of Recklessness:
135AP
What can we make from this!
A Raid Boss Without Curse of Recklessness has:
340AP
- Debuffed with 0/5 Demoralizing Shout:
40AP
- Debuffed with 2/5 Demoralizing Shout:
0AP
- Debuffed with 5/5 Demoralizing Shout:
0AP
- Debuffed with Roar:
100AP
- Debuffed with 0/2 Curse of Weakness:
0AP
A Raid Boss with the Debuff Curse of Recklessness has:
475AP
- Debuffed with 0/5 Demoralizing Shout:
165AP (With Screech: 0AP)
- Debuffed with 2/5 Demoralizing Shout:
117AP (With Screech: 0AP)
- Debuffed with 5/5 Demoralizing Shout:
55AP (With Screech: 0AP)
- Debuffed with Roar:
235AP (With Screech: 20AP)
- Debuffed with 0/2 Curse of Weakness:
125AP (With Screech: 0AP)
Synopsis
- When we have a hunter with a Owl or Bat pet with Screech (Rank 5) Curse of Recklessness can be used safely on ALL bosses while still getting the
MAXIMUM Attack Power Reduction Possible (Exempt: Roar)
- When we do NOT have a hunter with a Owl or Bat pet with Screech (Rank 5) Curse of Recklessness can be used safely on most bosses depending on if we have a warrior with 5/5 imp ds or not. Bosses we do
NOT want to use CoR on currently are: Archimonde, Azgalor, Mother Shahraz and Illidan, Reliquary of Sould (Phase 1).
Bosses we should
NOT use CoR on when we do not have 5/5 Demo Shout are: Teron Gorefiend
Resources:
Wowhead: Use it to find Mankrik's wife.
A brief primer on Attack Power - TankSpot
http://elitistjerks.com/f33/t7058-de...g_shout_et_al/
Demoralizing Shout - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft
All above information can be found through these and other various resources.