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lairpie · 04/28/08, 4:26 PM

By far the easiest way to implement pvp balancing without affecting pve is through implementing class specific balancing things. Druids are too powerful and hunters are too weak? Give them a fix that makes druids weak to hunters. Blizzard has said over and over again that they don't feel the need to make all specs viable for all game roles so the fact that its a bigger nerf to feral druids than resto druids makes no difference to them. PVE balance between all specs and classes is probably better now than it ever has been before, and anything that changes that is met with huge outcries.

I play both a hunter and a druid in arenas and this is a huge huge gain for hunters. In a 2v2 match basically the entire game is the hunter trying to run the enemy druid out of mana while the enemy druid tries to either los the hunter, or sit on the hunter. Nearly the entire game is decided by how many ticks of viper sting you eat over the course of the game. Because of scorpid pets and a resistance to dispel from a marks talent, removing the poison isn't reliable enough, so you either shift into bear form to prevent getting viper stung at an inopportune time, or you shift into bear form instantly when the viper hits you so you don't eat the drain ticks. When I'm playing my druid its almost a complete joke to see a hunter cast scare beast. Allowing hunters to instantly fear the druid greatly limits the druid's ability to mitigate mana drained from viper. If he ever is caught in cheetah form with both viper sting and fear beast cooldowns up he's going to eat a full duration viper sting. If he goes into bear form to not eat the viper ticks, the hunter can just fear the druid right as viper would wear off, then trap him, then as the trap ends, and he shifts out to heal, having not healed for 20 seconds and gets hit by a viper sing again. That's not a minor annoyance, that's a huge deal.

Lastly, using the argument that giving one of the least represented classes a direct buff against one of the most represented classes at high levels isn't going to limit the overplayed class because there aren't very many of the lesser played is an incredible logical feat. Makeups that can consistently beat other highly rated makeups, become high rated makeups.

04/28/08, 4:26 PM	#165 (permalink)
lairpie Don Flamenco lee Night Elf Druid <Wendigo Brewing Co> Alterac Mountains	By far the easiest way to implement pvp balancing without affecting pve is through implementing class specific balancing things. Druids are too powerful and hunters are too weak? Give them a fix that makes druids weak to hunters. Blizzard has said over and over again that they don't feel the need to make all specs viable for all game roles so the fact that its a bigger nerf to feral druids than resto druids makes no difference to them. PVE balance between all specs and classes is probably better now than it ever has been before, and anything that changes that is met with huge outcries. I play both a hunter and a druid in arenas and this is a huge huge gain for hunters. In a 2v2 match basically the entire game is the hunter trying to run the enemy druid out of mana while the enemy druid tries to either los the hunter, or sit on the hunter. Nearly the entire game is decided by how many ticks of viper sting you eat over the course of the game. Because of scorpid pets and a resistance to dispel from a marks talent, removing the poison isn't reliable enough, so you either shift into bear form to prevent getting viper stung at an inopportune time, or you shift into bear form instantly when the viper hits you so you don't eat the drain ticks. When I'm playing my druid its almost a complete joke to see a hunter cast scare beast. Allowing hunters to instantly fear the druid greatly limits the druid's ability to mitigate mana drained from viper. If he ever is caught in cheetah form with both viper sting and fear beast cooldowns up he's going to eat a full duration viper sting. If he goes into bear form to not eat the viper ticks, the hunter can just fear the druid right as viper would wear off, then trap him, then as the trap ends, and he shifts out to heal, having not healed for 20 seconds and gets hit by a viper sing again. That's not a minor annoyance, that's a huge deal. Lastly, using the argument that giving one of the least represented classes a direct buff against one of the most represented classes at high levels isn't going to limit the overplayed class because there aren't very many of the lesser played is an incredible logical feat. Makeups that can consistently beat other highly rated makeups, become high rated makeups.