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KamPa · 04/30/08, 1:59 PM

While R&D thread did offer some input, it was fairly limited, and filled with typical Blizz WoW forum posts. So, I'd like to ask something bit more basic here.

Currently doing them using "Last Resort" positioning, which works all good and well for keeping raid damage controlled. Lock tank leaves couple Blazes on the stairs, meaning tanks only have to strafe a bit to clean it. Still, clearing debuffs remain main problem with this, Images stacking DT on all 3 tanks so fast, that waiting for Blow becomes dangerous. BOPs help, but her rapid target changes screw our healers. Seemed that using trees for healing OTs was best, due to extended LOS duration at times - how many people do you have healing tanks there? In the end, we had 1 pally, 2 full time trees and backup priest, throwing mending and CoH in LOS situations and GH if debuffs were >10.

However, randomness of tank damage really annoys me. Can't fully debuff Sacrolash, since she slaughters pets with Shadow Blades and using healer just to keep owl up seems a waste - though maybe not? Do pets actually get Dark Touched? Can't Scorpid, since it means another target in LOS - or would FD make images go back? Unless I'm wrong, SR doesn't work either, since we didn't notice any full resists of Dark Strikes and debuff stacks anyway. Do Images follow standard avoidance rules - didn't really use totems/scrolls for them, but would extra agi help out with avoiding DS? I realize that this entire strategy puts most pressure on tanks, but is it really that bad? In the end, we'll switch to something else after a kill, since it doesn't look especially repetitive.

We also made few tries with what I see is considered "Vodka positioning" - but keeping MT healers alive seems to be a real pain. Wasn't really sure if using full SR is needed, as DT stacked anyway. I'm more interested in knowing, who is responsible for keeping them up? Additional healer in the back had quite a problem with his gimped healing output in SR combined with high stacks of DT on people. Do raid healers help out? Are there 2 tank-healer healers? At times it seemed that clearing DT through Blaze would barely help, as images would instantly stack it to double digits on same person - I guess that's normal?

04/30/08, 1:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
KamPa Piston Honda Ailawiu Night Elf Priest <Pathfinders> Bronzebeard (EU)	While R&D thread did offer some input, it was fairly limited, and filled with typical Blizz WoW forum posts. So, I'd like to ask something bit more basic here. Currently doing them using "Last Resort" positioning, which works all good and well for keeping raid damage controlled. Lock tank leaves couple Blazes on the stairs, meaning tanks only have to strafe a bit to clean it. Still, clearing debuffs remain main problem with this, Images stacking DT on all 3 tanks so fast, that waiting for Blow becomes dangerous. BOPs help, but her rapid target changes screw our healers. Seemed that using trees for healing OTs was best, due to extended LOS duration at times - how many people do you have healing tanks there? In the end, we had 1 pally, 2 full time trees and backup priest, throwing mending and CoH in LOS situations and GH if debuffs were >10. However, randomness of tank damage really annoys me. Can't fully debuff Sacrolash, since she slaughters pets with Shadow Blades and using healer just to keep owl up seems a waste - though maybe not? Do pets actually get Dark Touched? Can't Scorpid, since it means another target in LOS - or would FD make images go back? Unless I'm wrong, SR doesn't work either, since we didn't notice any full resists of Dark Strikes and debuff stacks anyway. Do Images follow standard avoidance rules - didn't really use totems/scrolls for them, but would extra agi help out with avoiding DS? I realize that this entire strategy puts most pressure on tanks, but is it really that bad? In the end, we'll switch to something else after a kill, since it doesn't look especially repetitive. We also made few tries with what I see is considered "Vodka positioning" - but keeping MT healers alive seems to be a real pain. Wasn't really sure if using full SR is needed, as DT stacked anyway. I'm more interested in knowing, who is responsible for keeping them up? Additional healer in the back had quite a problem with his gimped healing output in SR combined with high stacks of DT on people. Do raid healers help out? Are there 2 tank-healer healers? At times it seemed that clearing DT through Blaze would barely help, as images would instantly stack it to double digits on same person - I guess that's normal?