Elitist Jerks - View Single Post

mofidik · 05/18/08, 2:31 PM

Apparantly yelling wasn't enough seeing as you still simply ignore the point, instead insist on claiming hunters have it bad. To my knowledge there's no-one who bothered to put the strength of hunters in an exact overview, because really, if you care about arena enough people just know why hunters aren't popular. And this is not because they're so bad, it's because they're hard and they're hard to play with for their partner. I didn't claim all hunters are farming alts, hence the "etc", but it's a fairly valid reason since alot of people actually rolled a hunter alt to farm easilly and that hunter is on that list just fine, on top of the fact that the class is just too hard to PvP with for many.

Would it be good for all classes to be equally easy/hard to play? I don't think it would. Some people roll warriors to crit people's faces off, some people roll mages because how badly vurtne outskilled people. Power to both, chose what you like and go with it, sorry if you made a wrong call. While some classes are harder to master, all of them can succeed. In your example, I've said it before and I'll have to say it again, hunter/druid is honestly OP'd through the roof if you've got two good players. If you really want your class to be easy so you can be just as cool looking, you'll just get disappointed when you've got your phat purple longer than 3 days.

I'd like to make a few cuts in your (E-)sports reference and see if you think it makes more sense, I think it does. Amateur league is BGs, you can get carried by a good team, you can shine yourself sometimes by making a good move, but you don't get paid. Appart from that last part (because BGs is carebear) this makes sense, right? Now arenas are the professional players. 1.5k is second league in <insert countrey you never heard off> and pays you reasonably well, but you've barely made it into the professional circuit and your team can carry you at this level. When you're 2.4k+, you're a star player, get all the good shoes (yea, good shoes don't make the difference S3 weapons make, I know, but the hot tub after just might) and get paid alot. Aren't you as good as they thought? You'll probably just be dropped from the team because you won't get carried at that level. Why are these players in these leagues? Because that's how good they were born to be and that's the training their dad paid for. Not fair, is it?

The reason why WoW will most likely never be an e-sport is RNG, the fact it's not watchable for someone who's not already a very aware PvPer himself and the nature of the "counter setup'ing" to win. If blizzard would ever try this game to be a real e-sport, I doubt they'd start with working on what classes bad players can't play.

05/18/08, 2:31 PM	#115 (permalink)
mofidik Von Kaiser Stuck Night Elf Rogue <Unusual Suspects> Doomhammer (EU)	Apparantly yelling wasn't enough seeing as you still simply ignore the point, instead insist on claiming hunters have it bad. To my knowledge there's no-one who bothered to put the strength of hunters in an exact overview, because really, if you care about arena enough people just know why hunters aren't popular. And this is not because they're so bad, it's because they're hard and they're hard to play with for their partner. I didn't claim all hunters are farming alts, hence the "etc", but it's a fairly valid reason since alot of people actually rolled a hunter alt to farm easilly and that hunter is on that list just fine, on top of the fact that the class is just too hard to PvP with for many. Would it be good for all classes to be equally easy/hard to play? I don't think it would. Some people roll warriors to crit people's faces off, some people roll mages because how badly vurtne outskilled people. Power to both, chose what you like and go with it, sorry if you made a wrong call. While some classes are harder to master, all of them can succeed. In your example, I've said it before and I'll have to say it again, hunter/druid is honestly OP'd through the roof if you've got two good players. If you really want your class to be easy so you can be just as cool looking, you'll just get disappointed when you've got your phat purple longer than 3 days. I'd like to make a few cuts in your (E-)sports reference and see if you think it makes more sense, I think it does. Amateur league is BGs, you can get carried by a good team, you can shine yourself sometimes by making a good move, but you don't get paid. Appart from that last part (because BGs is carebear) this makes sense, right? Now arenas are the professional players. 1.5k is second league in <insert countrey you never heard off> and pays you reasonably well, but you've barely made it into the professional circuit and your team can carry you at this level. When you're 2.4k+, you're a star player, get all the good shoes (yea, good shoes don't make the difference S3 weapons make, I know, but the hot tub after just might) and get paid alot. Aren't you as good as they thought? You'll probably just be dropped from the team because you won't get carried at that level. Why are these players in these leagues? Because that's how good they were born to be and that's the training their dad paid for. Not fair, is it? The reason why WoW will most likely never be an e-sport is RNG, the fact it's not watchable for someone who's not already a very aware PvPer himself and the nature of the "counter setup'ing" to win. If blizzard would ever try this game to be a real e-sport, I doubt they'd start with working on what classes bad players can't play.