Originally Posted by coredumperror
I just realized something about the change to Mangle (bear) only affecting Maul instead of Shred. Unless Mangle (bear) and mangle (cat) can can both be on a mob at the same time, that'll utterly ruin cat DPS on bear-tanked targets by making shred not have the 30% bonus all the time, if at all. I guess with 2t6 and the -6 energy per mangle talent, mangle may outpace shred in terms of damage/energy, but I'm still worried about this change.
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I highly doubt they would make one overwrite the other. It wouldn't make sense at all imo. That would be like only allowing one warlock curse of any kind.
The real question is how each debuff will affect bleeds. It only makes sense that the cat one would, else it would be a HUGE nerf to Rip. Removing it from the bear version will be a different sort of nerf, especially if there isn't a cat in raid. Then your lacerates and other classes bleeds would not be getting the bonus. Now, if they
both increase bleed damage, it could be very interesting.
Another point to mention is that if there will now be 2 different Mangle debuffs getting applied, that would be another debuff slot that will be taken up. Not a major issue, but one to consider in raid composition.