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ceasefire · 05/29/08, 4:31 PM

Warrior/Druid has a relatively easy match-up versus most double DPS teams, other than SPriest/Warlock and Mage/Rogue played perfectly.

Against Hunter/Druid, you really shouldn't forget that the Hunter is on a very low, finite mana pool as well. Since the burst he delivers won't be able to kill anyone, you're never really under a threat of dying before he invariably goes out of mana. Killing the pet is more important for the fact that it costs him a good chunk to revive (because believe me, with that much CC they will get the res pet off).

If you keep grinding away at the Hunter while LOSing his main attacks, it's really very easy to run both of them out of mana. Entangling Roots is better than Cyclone because you get Wind and it gives you a chance to refresh Shouts while switching to a Sword and Shield. I think trying fancy moves like Spell Reflecting Freezing Trap are impractical. A lot of Hunters use Frost Trap, Freezing Trap generally follows up a Scatter Shot, and you'll often have 80 or 90 rage that you lose for swapping to D/Battle Stance. You also lose two Globals swapping weapons. Even reflecting a Cyclone, unless you're setting up a kill, is impractical. He'll get the next one up within six seconds, or good ones will r1 Moonfire and Cyclone you anyways, and you'll be in a full six second lock with no rage against a Hunter that can kite you. He can also shift out of a roots while you waste 50+ rage and 3 or more seconds on your global. Save your reflect for his Nature's Grasp while trying to kite you, or an easily telegraphed Freezing Trap you may suspect.

Also, I've played a Hunter alt so I know their Scatter Shot/Trap is both on a timer and has a distance requirement. The latter is very important because a good Warrior should be able to kill or seriously wound (burn cooldowns) of a Druid without peels. Someone alluded to the gap between great and mediocre Hunters, which I fully agree with. Most Hunters from 1500-2100 aren't religious about peeling their Druid with Concussive/Scatter and such. So if you're good at sticking to a Druid and they haven't maintained ideal distances/positioning, you can certainly quick swap over and force cooldowns/mana.

If a Druid can kite you without cooldowns and without peels from his partner, you obviously have no chance though.

05/29/08, 4:31 PM	#1541 (permalink)
ceasefire Metagame Metagame Gnome Warrior <BlitzKrieg> Dragonmaw	Warrior/Druid has a relatively easy match-up versus most double DPS teams, other than SPriest/Warlock and Mage/Rogue played perfectly. Against Hunter/Druid, you really shouldn't forget that the Hunter is on a very low, finite mana pool as well. Since the burst he delivers won't be able to kill anyone, you're never really under a threat of dying before he invariably goes out of mana. Killing the pet is more important for the fact that it costs him a good chunk to revive (because believe me, with that much CC they will get the res pet off). If you keep grinding away at the Hunter while LOSing his main attacks, it's really very easy to run both of them out of mana. Entangling Roots is better than Cyclone because you get Wind and it gives you a chance to refresh Shouts while switching to a Sword and Shield. I think trying fancy moves like Spell Reflecting Freezing Trap are impractical. A lot of Hunters use Frost Trap, Freezing Trap generally follows up a Scatter Shot, and you'll often have 80 or 90 rage that you lose for swapping to D/Battle Stance. You also lose two Globals swapping weapons. Even reflecting a Cyclone, unless you're setting up a kill, is impractical. He'll get the next one up within six seconds, or good ones will r1 Moonfire and Cyclone you anyways, and you'll be in a full six second lock with no rage against a Hunter that can kite you. He can also shift out of a roots while you waste 50+ rage and 3 or more seconds on your global. Save your reflect for his Nature's Grasp while trying to kite you, or an easily telegraphed Freezing Trap you may suspect. Also, I've played a Hunter alt so I know their Scatter Shot/Trap is both on a timer and has a distance requirement. The latter is very important because a good Warrior should be able to kill or seriously wound (burn cooldowns) of a Druid without peels. Someone alluded to the gap between great and mediocre Hunters, which I fully agree with. Most Hunters from 1500-2100 aren't religious about peeling their Druid with Concussive/Scatter and such. So if you're good at sticking to a Druid and they haven't maintained ideal distances/positioning, you can certainly quick swap over and force cooldowns/mana. If a Druid can kite you without cooldowns and without peels from his partner, you obviously have no chance though.