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Old 05/30/08, 10:14 AM   #667 (permalink)
Regen
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Originally Posted by Jagiya View Post
We generally roll with something like this:



Advantages;
- We use 2-3 Shadow Priests and 2 Resto Shamen, so the required slash healing with 9 soakers on each side is fairly minimal.
- Burn movement is straightforward; minimal risk of people spreading to others whilst trying to escape the slash zone. (The very concept of a "grid" layout horrifies me to no end. I envision burning. Lots and lots of burning.)
- Overall healing stability; allowing slash/raid healer(s) to commit a little extra to the tanks when/if necessary.
- Multiple burn targets on 1 side still provides us with a very stable slash group after they've ran away.

Disadvantages;
- Because we have no-one sitting out of the slash groups, burn healing can get a little scary at times; as we often see an excess of unecessary burn damage. Fortunately the slashes fall off before the burn damage becomes excessive; but there's no denying the difficulty in keeping several 3-slash burns up simultaneously.

The soakers at the front are our healers and hunters, removing the potential threat issues of having DPS within the 110% threshold; and also allowing them the opportunity to help out on burn healing if necessary. "Long distance burn running" is also prevented by sticking Mages and Paladins at the back of the slash groups; as they'll shed it and carry on with their role. (We try to promote as much "uptime" as possible.)

In previous discussion I mentioned our preference of 2x Warrior over 1x Warr & 1x Bear; however in our first kill we ended up resorting to the latter; as our Enhancement Shaman didn't show up and we were forced to use the OT's Shaman alt to fill the gap. In an entire night of attempts, the bear died quite often (perhaps 7-8 of our ~16 or so attempts) whilst I only died once. I'm still struggling to determine why we're experiencing so much instability with the bear, yet I'm being kept up with ease.

As demonstrated, the diagram is designed on an 8 healer basis, but pending requirements and composition, we can easily replace one of the Holy Priests with a Shadow Priest for more efficient slash coverage, DPS and VT. We went with 8 healers during learning to provide a little more stability, as we weren't being held back by the enrage timer; rather people dying before we got to it.

I don't know how strongly I'd recommend our method to anyone else as it clearly has it's flaws and is open to alot of refinement. But it does get the job done, at least.

Pretty much what we use as well, we try to leave a path through the middle of the dps so no one has to break off and potentially run along the outside -- Just run straight to the safe zone.

There is a moderate amount of luck involved in whether you will take a burn with 3 slashes on -- If you are doing it right it will fade before it gets unhealable, if you aren't you didn't run fast enough (EDIT: Confirmed by Cad you are bad if you have 3 slashes on for the last 15 seconds). As for burn healing the two usually consist of a pally/druid which might be standing in front of melee, but behind brut's mid point (overall covering more potential targets) - With 7 healers druid rolls hots on burns + current MT, paladin usually stays on MT until the last 10-15 seconds of burn.

As for your druid.. he has to be doing something wrong because our "gib factor" is significantly less than that of a warriors on this fight (and regardless should only be an issue during stomp).

Last edited by Regen : 05/30/08 at 10:41 AM.
 
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