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Old 06/03/08, 5:12 PM   #263 (permalink)
Tyrian
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Group runs away from encapsulated target, takes 1 tick, gas nova hits right after encapsulate and people aren't back for mass dispell and die.
Tip: You can position the raid - and get raid members to run in specific directions... where the location they end up is still in a mass dispell radius, of another group.

Dont think that 'running from encapsulate' means you will be forced to run off into a big empty, nowhere zone and die from a Gas Nova after because your not near any Mass dispell and couldn't get back to your original location in time. It only happens that way if thats the strat you chose to go with.

Are your ranged dpsers all going up to 130% and running away when she lands?
Yes, I go up to ~120% MT threat and hover there. I/Mages can invisibility during phase 2, at the correct time (when shes on the far side between a breathe) and that should fix agro problems from there.

I must admit ive seen Felmyst behave very strange sometimes with agro. Ive pulled at ~110% (not in melee range), we've seen melee pull agro who were simply not high enough. It can of course be put down to Omen being wrong - but either way ive seen Felmyst's agro act strange a couple times and not able to isolate exactly what happened.

Another strange thing: On a attempt, Felmyst landed at 5% Hp while enraged. Instead of rushing directly to the MT (as omen was indicating), she ran towards a rogue, a ret paladin, and ME (who had just 100% reset agro with invisability a few minutes earlier) and killed us all before going to the MT resulting in a wipe. None of these people were anywhere near high on threat, especially the ret paladin (who is quite low on damage for this fight). But me using invisability and dying like that before the MT who has had agro for 10 minutes is strange.

We've seen lazer beams spawn in front of people who are already running resulting in a quick death, graphics issue? turning around issue? just lag? has only happened 3 times in 9 hours so not to worried about it.
Raid leaders here could write a book called, "Excuses you've heard for people dying on Felmyst". Highlights of the book would include:

"I was lagging" - (when its an outright lie = you were just too slow to move)
"The beam caught up to me!" - (downright untrue = you were just too slow to move)
"I didn't see it" - (just a lie = you were just too slow)
"There was nothing I could have done to survive!" - (ORLY? = did you use your healthstone/healthpot?)

In all honesty, ive seen so many deaths in our Felmyst wipes - and heard so many excuses - and the same thing applies to virtually every one of them - either "You were just too slow, period" or "You should have potted and been faster, period". It reminds me of Archimonde, people can think of elaborate reasons for why they crater/die to doomfire - but in the end, you were probably just too slow, not paying enough attention, didn't pot - or a mix of all three.

About the 'heal through encapsulate' strat that people sometimes comment, "Wow, thats what Nihilum does!". Personally I think its silly. Its a good thing to do if you want to show off, great for the e-peen, but in no way is it the smartest or most elegant way to handle the fight.

Last edited by Tyrian : 06/03/08 at 5:26 PM.
 
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