Originally Posted by Gruntle
Werelds, your BT vs execute comparison is probably correct, what it boils down to is that at 30+ rage BT is more rage efficient than Execute (this is in the Compendium already Waagaa, read the first post). However you make some false assumptions regarding rage and weapon speeds.
If you're not using WW during execute phase this is just not true. Windfury is not better with slow weapons. The point in using fast weapons for execute is that you have
a) less risk of getting over the rage cap, rage come in small chunks rather than big
b) bigger chance of getting above 12/15 rage per gcd.
What I think Mjollnir meant was that if you're stuck with 100 rage every gcd (or rather that the next swing will take you over 100) you will be better off using execute every gcd to really use up all the rage. If rage efficiency is not important a 100 rage execute will still hit a lot harder than BT.
Compare these two situations (assuming 3900 AP):
1. You get 30 rage per GCD. You can do either 1 BT or 1 30 rage execute per gcd (3900*0.45=1755 vs 925+21*18=1303). BT wins clearly.
2. You get 100 rage per GCD. You can do either 1 BT (wasting 70 rage per gcd) or 1 100 rage execute (1755 vs 2773). Execute is the clear winner.
You could of course make use of HS as well, this would make things a bit better for BT, but at 100 rage per gcd I don't think anything beats Execute. And using HS will mean that your rage generation for the next gcd is more than halfed.
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Yea like I said most of the time I just completely ignore the myths around the executes. In particular:
- At my gear level BT doesnt outperform execute 90% of the time. If anything what I found is that either
- I get around 60 rage if stuff crits and not misses.
- I get below 30 rage if i get glancings x2 , mh miss etc.
Remember BT usually outperforms execute in the very small range of 30-55 rage. If you are above 55 rage you lose more by using BT due to big risk of wasting rage. Maybe its my weapons but it really RARELY lands in this range - never during recklessness too.
- Slow weapons are better. Frankly: i use 2.5/2.5 setup (This week i tried grip of mannoroth, but honestly it wasnt too impressive. The dps sucked mostly because of outside reasons though - Im a raid leader, so whenever raid goes not-so-smooth, I rarely pay attention to my own dps. We basically 1 shotted stuff but every boss it was a huge mess this week lol. Either way ill give it a shot next week). Hasted its 2.25/2.25. During heroism its at 1.73. Add drums and flurry and they work at 1.31 speed during executes. Really 1.31 speed is fast enough. With 12 rage executes and 2 slow weapons even glancing from OH seems to generate enough rage for execute. So only when i get a Miss/Miss there is a problem. With around 12% miss chance, the chance of it occuring is only ay 1.44%. Risk im willing to take
. On the upside i get actually more steady rage, without problems with it spiking too high or too low.