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HenryHippo · 06/09/08, 6:20 AM

I know this post is a little old so sorry for reviving it...

I was trying to figure out if Spellsurge would be a good idea to be used by DPS classes, after reading through this thread, there was only one person talking about using it in a Caster group, our guild has been thinking about using Spellsurge for casters, but from my reading about Spellsurge.

I haven't really come across anyone talking about caster dps using spellsurge. As a Warlock a life tap or two will overcome the mana gained from Spellsurge over 5 minutes or so, and that will result in about a loss of 13 dps in the 5 minutes (3.2s GCD allows for 1.28 SB's assuming at 2700 per SB, spread over 5 minutes). Which is compared to the loss of 40 dps, (while the Spellsurge enchanted weapon is used) using spellsurge (used Leulier's spreadsheet for this dps difference). I was testing [Wub's Cursed Hexblade] with Soulfrost to [Blade of Twisted Visions] with Spellsurge, which our the best weapons at our stage of progression, and they have similar dps values (again taken from Leulier's spreadsheet.

From that it seems Spellsurge would lose dps, but that is taken completely from a selfish point of view, it doesn't include the bonus you would give the group, the mana that everyone else gains, and the mana the healer spends healing you.

So, would you guys consider it beneficial in a caster group or not? I am leaning towards no, but this is my first attempt at theorycrafting (if you can call it that), so hopefully it is moderately accurate, my guild was interested in trying to get most of our caster dps to use this, which is why I started thinking about it. I was hoping you guys could paint a clearer picture for me?

06/09/08, 6:20 AM	#206 (permalink)
HenryHippo Glass Joe HaroldHippo Human Warlock Spinebreaker	I know this post is a little old so sorry for reviving it... I was trying to figure out if Spellsurge would be a good idea to be used by DPS classes, after reading through this thread, there was only one person talking about using it in a Caster group, our guild has been thinking about using Spellsurge for casters, but from my reading about Spellsurge. I haven't really come across anyone talking about caster dps using spellsurge. As a Warlock a life tap or two will overcome the mana gained from Spellsurge over 5 minutes or so, and that will result in about a loss of 13 dps in the 5 minutes (3.2s GCD allows for 1.28 SB's assuming at 2700 per SB, spread over 5 minutes). Which is compared to the loss of 40 dps, (while the Spellsurge enchanted weapon is used) using spellsurge (used Leulier's spreadsheet for this dps difference). I was testing [Wub's Cursed Hexblade] with Soulfrost to [Blade of Twisted Visions] with Spellsurge, which our the best weapons at our stage of progression, and they have similar dps values (again taken from Leulier's spreadsheet. From that it seems Spellsurge would lose dps, but that is taken completely from a selfish point of view, it doesn't include the bonus you would give the group, the mana that everyone else gains, and the mana the healer spends healing you. So, would you guys consider it beneficial in a caster group or not? I am leaning towards no, but this is my first attempt at theorycrafting (if you can call it that), so hopefully it is moderately accurate, my guild was interested in trying to get most of our caster dps to use this, which is why I started thinking about it. I was hoping you guys could paint a clearer picture for me? Last edited by HenryHippo : 06/09/08 at 6:29 AM.