Originally Posted by Benita
I haven't read anyone mentioning yet that the BT badge loot was released as x-1 loot, not x. Even if you could use x-2 or x-3 content to get it, it still was not x.
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I'm a little unsure exactly what you were referring to in my post with this, so apologies if this goes a little astray.
When i'm talking about content in terms of tier x, x-1, x-2, the best way to link loot to the content level is based on the ilvl of the items that dropped. If we take Black temple as tier x, we can see the ilvl of loot in there is predominately 141 (with Illidan loot being 151). The latest round of badge loot was ilvl 141 (with weapons being 146). Thus i would say that this loot is most certainly of the same tier as BT, and thus should be solely obtained by BT badges and not tier5,kara,heroic badges (based on a wotlk system)
Originally Posted by Benita
Those items and the attunement lifts did make it possible for some new BT/MH guilds to rise, but those are not close to being equal to the fully farmed BT->SWP guilds.
It made more content accessible to more players before it will be rendered obsolete and had almost no impact whatsoever on the cutting edge content raiders, except maybe easier pug heroic runs, alt gearing or recruitment/rerolling possibilities.
A change well done and not world of casualcraft if you ask me.
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I would disagree slightly here. Whilst you say it was both the items and attunement lifts that allows more content accessible to more players, i would say that the attunement lift alone would have done this. The attunement lift was a change well done, but the BT loot from heroic content was not well done. The issue isn't that harcore raiders are upset with casuals obtaining the same loot through easier means, its the fact that Blizzard changes the goalposts wherby the hardcore have to work at the highest level of content to obtain their loot and then x months later when the hardcore have their loot then same level of loot is obtainable through much easier means.
Maybe i'm just nostalic to the way it used to be in vanilla. Clearly defined levels of content each providing their own clearly defined level of loot.