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tufy · 06/13/08, 8:17 AM

Obsolete discussion based on Alpha data:

Overall, the changes seem to be aimed in two directions:
1. making top elemental build viable in pvp and countering its biggest weaknesses
2. changing spell rotation by adding a fire nuke into the rotation. Actual dps and rotation will depend on Lava Burst's power.

I've ran a few fast numbers comparing Lava Burst and Lightning Bolt. Lava Burst gains 1.31 modifier for scaling, while Lightning spells have a 1.35 modifier. This leads me to believe that Lava Burst will be superior to Lightning Bolt spam or CL-3LB / CL-4LB rotation if we have Flame Shock on the target (assured crit and through it cheaper Flame Shock reapplication + CL or LB following it), while otherwise LB and CL will be superior. This leads me to believe we'll see either FS->CL-LB->Lava Burst or FS->LB-LB->Lava Burst rotation as our primary dps. Actual data on Lava Burst and additional theorycrafting should prove the best result. Downside? We'll be forced into 20 yard range due to Flame Shock's lesser range. This may prove to be a negative aspect.

The new Spellpower stat (+dmg) works differently than reported before, too - instead of giving a set bonus and then boosting that bonus within healing tree, ALL heals now get innate increased bonus from the stat. This means both Elemental and Enhancement Shamans will be good offspec healers, compareable to Elemental or Enhancement spec in Resto gear. However, what makes this change impressive is the fact that gear swapping isn’t needed - in other words, both specs will be capable of emergency offhealing if needed in the middle of the raid (same goes for all healer classes of course).

Throwing a fast look at the talent trees, I can see a real hybrid rising out of it - the gear may no longer be the issue.

I've personally ran a quick number comparison to see how this scales with a fire mage - the result is roughly 100 dps advantage for a fire mage at 2000 +dmg and 20% crit on gear for CL-3LB rotation (ignoring haste effect). No idea how this will be affected by Lava Burst, though, nor did I run any numbers for different stats and builds yet.

06/13/08, 8:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
tufy Piston Honda Nathaira Draenei Shaman <Deus Ex Machina> Grim Batol (EU)	Obsolete discussion based on Alpha data: Overall, the changes seem to be aimed in two directions: 1. making top elemental build viable in pvp and countering its biggest weaknesses 2. changing spell rotation by adding a fire nuke into the rotation. Actual dps and rotation will depend on Lava Burst's power. I've ran a few fast numbers comparing Lava Burst and Lightning Bolt. Lava Burst gains 1.31 modifier for scaling, while Lightning spells have a 1.35 modifier. This leads me to believe that Lava Burst will be superior to Lightning Bolt spam or CL-3LB / CL-4LB rotation if we have Flame Shock on the target (assured crit and through it cheaper Flame Shock reapplication + CL or LB following it), while otherwise LB and CL will be superior. This leads me to believe we'll see either FS->CL-LB->Lava Burst or FS->LB-LB->Lava Burst rotation as our primary dps. Actual data on Lava Burst and additional theorycrafting should prove the best result. Downside? We'll be forced into 20 yard range due to Flame Shock's lesser range. This may prove to be a negative aspect. The new Spellpower stat (+dmg) works differently than reported before, too - instead of giving a set bonus and then boosting that bonus within healing tree, ALL heals now get innate increased bonus from the stat. This means both Elemental and Enhancement Shamans will be good offspec healers, compareable to Elemental or Enhancement spec in Resto gear. However, what makes this change impressive is the fact that gear swapping isn’t needed - in other words, both specs will be capable of emergency offhealing if needed in the middle of the raid (same goes for all healer classes of course). Throwing a fast look at the talent trees, I can see a real hybrid rising out of it - the gear may no longer be the issue. I've personally ran a quick number comparison to see how this scales with a fire mage - the result is roughly 100 dps advantage for a fire mage at 2000 +dmg and 20% crit on gear for CL-3LB rotation (ignoring haste effect). No idea how this will be affected by Lava Burst, though, nor did I run any numbers for different stats and builds yet. Last edited by tufy : 07/20/08 at 5:06 AM.
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