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Old 06/20/08, 7:03 PM   #4215 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chishi View Post
Alright, not sure if this has been covered in the past ~160 posts, but it however isn't on the main post.

I've yet to get a full armor pen set for feral dps, however, I don't believe it will be as helpful as I had first thought due to my calculations on the affect of armor on effective damage by melee swing speed. Which concluded in armor effecting slower swing speed damage more then quick swing speeds by a small amount. Either way, I plan on testing it once I manage to get the gear required for the testing.

On a side note, I've been using this thread for quite a while for basic figures. However, I happen to disagree with the use of the [Everbloom Idol].
According to multiple tests, I would lose ~ 200 dps per boss fight using the [Everbloom Idol] with an ability rotation of Mangle, Shred (till 5 CP), Rip. In most of the fights, ~ 46% of all damage done by me was from physical damage (white melee hits). During the time I had used [Idol of Ferocity], I recorded an average 58% uptime with the ability rotation I used. The 65 agility proc from [Idol of Ferocity] adds 74 AP unbuffed, 79 AP with kings (80.8 AP according to Rating Buster). The AP would slightly increase rip damage, but I'm too lazy to come up with figures for that at the moment. Along with the AP, the idol also adds temporarily to crit chance of all attacks and abilities, stacking up to 2.81% (According to Rating Buster, again, lack of worked out figures due to laziness).
I have not looked at the figures attributed to [Everbloom Idol] due to the fact that my overall performance with it decreased on multiple occasions.

Just seeing if there are others with the similar opinion.
Armor Penetrations value is very dependent on the base armor of the mob, and what debuffs are up on it, its a useful stat, but you shouldnt "stack" it to the exclusion of other stats.

In regards to the Idol of Terror vs Everboom Idol:

Please post the following:

a) Testing methodology, step by step so that others can reproduce your results to verify such a claim
b) WWS or at least combat logs of your personal tests
c) The entire raid makeup for all your personal tests, please include the uptime of all debuffs on the boss with this.
d) The gearset you were using for each test

Deciding to not trust a tried an true gearset calculator like Rawr on the basis that you don't like seeing a certain item at the top of the list is astounding.

Personally, if I'm looking at two different items in Rawr, and out of the two, I want to see which has better survival/mitigation stats on it, I look at the survival mitigation scores for those items and ignore the number for "threat". But maybe I'm crazy.
 
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