Elitist Jerks - View Single Post - WoW: The RNG (Random Number Generator) eSport?

Searix · 07/01/08, 7:57 AM

You guys are continuing to not understand why WoW RNG is bad, imagine the following real life examples.

-When a pitcher in baseball pitches the ball, and the batter hits the ball with a perfect swing, perfect stance, perfect everything, give a 20% chance the ball passes through the bat for a strike.

-When a quarterback throws a 50 yard pass to a wide open receiver, despite perfectly catching the football give a 20% chance the ball melts and is automatically incomplete.

-When in soccer Ronaldo shoots on a wide open net because he faked out the goalie, give a 20% chance the ball is blocked by a random wall that pops out of the ground and deflects it.

How is any of that fun? Would you continue to watch sports competitively if any of that happened? In EVERY major sport, the chance that something random like the above happens (bad umpire calls, etc.) is kept to a MINIMUM (<0.5% chance), to NON-existant, or is expected and counterable and is considered part of the game (Snowing in football, Windy in soccer).

That's precisely the problem with WoW. You can COMPLETELY win and lose based on RNG (If you claim otherwise watch a friend play, watch WCM).

Competitive sports play based on who is the better, not who is the luckier.

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To better prove the point that RNG is a hugely deciding factor on W/L, here are a few games we lost either totally or largely to RNG in the ~100 game last week glad grind stretch that i frapsed:
2 games: 5% chance to resist frost nova with surefooted. (Double melee CC training non targetted melee, unexpected uncontrolled melee kills)
2 games: Counterspell resist in a crucial moment
1+: 5-35% chance to resist pet frost nova (~35% is based on warlocks and warlock pets, pets get 0 spell penetration despite however much i wear, and the spell is considered binary.)
3+ games: Mace stun, either on our rogue in double melee, or our healer.
3+ games: Kidney shot resist in a crucial moment
1: Blind resist

I also won by the RNG at times, many times in fact won by the above when they happened to me. I can accept a little RNG (Frostbolt hitting for 1350-1550).

I cannot accept WoW as a competitive e-sport until RNG by and large gets changed until it's on par with other competitive sports. You get the best referees and umpires available to you instead of run of the mill umpires and referees for a reason.

07/01/08, 7:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
Searix Piston Honda Searix Human Mage <Impervious> Stormreaver	You guys are continuing to not understand why WoW RNG is bad, imagine the following real life examples. -When a pitcher in baseball pitches the ball, and the batter hits the ball with a perfect swing, perfect stance, perfect everything, give a 20% chance the ball passes through the bat for a strike. -When a quarterback throws a 50 yard pass to a wide open receiver, despite perfectly catching the football give a 20% chance the ball melts and is automatically incomplete. -When in soccer Ronaldo shoots on a wide open net because he faked out the goalie, give a 20% chance the ball is blocked by a random wall that pops out of the ground and deflects it. How is any of that fun? Would you continue to watch sports competitively if any of that happened? In EVERY major sport, the chance that something random like the above happens (bad umpire calls, etc.) is kept to a MINIMUM (<0.5% chance), to NON-existant, or is expected and counterable and is considered part of the game (Snowing in football, Windy in soccer). That's precisely the problem with WoW. You can COMPLETELY win and lose based on RNG (If you claim otherwise watch a friend play, watch WCM). Competitive sports play based on who is the better, not who is the luckier. ------ To better prove the point that RNG is a hugely deciding factor on W/L, here are a few games we lost either totally or largely to RNG in the ~100 game last week glad grind stretch that i frapsed: 2 games: 5% chance to resist frost nova with surefooted. (Double melee CC training non targetted melee, unexpected uncontrolled melee kills) 2 games: Counterspell resist in a crucial moment 1+: 5-35% chance to resist pet frost nova (~35% is based on warlocks and warlock pets, pets get 0 spell penetration despite however much i wear, and the spell is considered binary.) 3+ games: Mace stun, either on our rogue in double melee, or our healer. 3+ games: Kidney shot resist in a crucial moment 1: Blind resist I also won by the RNG at times, many times in fact won by the above when they happened to me. I can accept a little RNG (Frostbolt hitting for 1350-1550). I cannot accept WoW as a competitive e-sport until RNG by and large gets changed until it's on par with other competitive sports. You get the best referees and umpires available to you instead of run of the mill umpires and referees for a reason.