Originally Posted by Alvira
DPM stays constant when you add haste rating.
But DPM goes up when you add +int, +dmg, and even +crit.
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The bolded part is actually wrong when you look at it from an overall perspective.
Your DPM for the overall fight actually increases with haste.
You're right that haste doesn't increase the DPM of AB spam, nor the DPM of FB (or whatever youre filler is) spam.
Haste however does make you reduce your AB spam time and increase your FB spam time, which is an overall DPM increase because FB is better DPM.
But I'm not going to beat the dead horse. Every stat has their benefits, stick your gear/setup in rawr to find out what's best for you.
Back on topic -
Wanding.
Originally Posted by Wizeowel
You forgot to calculate how much dps your shadowpriests and warlocks would lose by you wanding... most wands are shadow damage so they eat ISB debuffs.
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Using Leulier's sheet with 3 warlocks (2 destro, 1 aff, sunwell gear) and 2 shadow priests, we get ~65% ISB uptime and 10.025 shadow DPS total.
If we now add a shadow wand with 1.5s shoot time, our ISB uptime drops to 51%.
That's a 14% uptime loss, causing up to lose ~280 DPS.
Sunwell wands have 198 DPS.
Wand spec +25%, Misery +5%, MCoE +13%, crits +15%, shadow priest shadow vulnerability +10%, misses -4%, partial resists -6%. ISB uptime adds another +10% on average.
Spell haste doesn't affect wand. Normal haste might affect it, but stats are not before the WotLK pre-patch.
So, that's a total of 369 DPS. Our wanding still increases net damage, but 3/4 of its damage are eaten up by the ISB.
It's even more if you add the lost VE/VT mana.
So, don't use your shadow wands then. What else can we do?
Fire wands - all arena wands are fire, 198 DPS, 1.9s shoot time.
[Sporeling's Firestick] - 97 DPS, 1.3s cast time.
Holy wands -
[Wand of Cleansing Light] - 198 DPS, 1.5s shoot time.
I didn't remember that this one was not shadow! You'll have to see a lot of those drop to get one though.
[Consecrated Wand] should be mentioned for its 1.2s speed, but it's nature damage eating stormstrike charges, it's an alliance quest reward and the damage is really bad.
So, what are our options for wands then, assuming JoW is up?
Shadow wands deals little to negative damage due to ISB.
Arena wands are 1.9s, 351 DPS, 19.5 m/s from JoW.
The sporeling wand is 1.3s, 172 DPS, 28.5 m/s from JoW.
The sunwell wand is 1.5s, 270 DPS, 24.5 m/s from JoW.
Wands gain another 39 m/s from 40% spirit regen outside 5SR.
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Originally Posted by Adjusted values for JoW
frb_dps = 1126
frb_mps = 98
ab_dps = 1786
ab_mps = 423
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That gives us a tradeoff for 2.0 for frostbolt, 2.9 for the arena wand, 3.1 for the holy wand and 3.3 for the sporeling wand with JoW.
So, frostbolt as filler is still 50% better than wanding, and fast wands for better JoW are not worth the damage loss from lower DPS.
Also, Tizzlewump's DPS values are really low, missing debuffs and probably some more. So, frostbolt will pull ahead quite a bit more there.