Originally Posted by Amera
The sentiment is fine, though the bolded section is incredibly off-base, sorry. If rogues were as easy to sit on and kill as warlocks, as an example, they wouldn't be nearly as powerful as they are now. In any case, balance changes only happen when people make noise, so expecting everyone to stay silent is a bit silly. Also, there's really no point to this thread other than to discuss what is currently popular in the meta-game at the moment.
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Rogues have Cheat Death, locks have +26% healing, priests have Pain Supression and +30% healing, and they all have comparable armor except a lock has an additional 20% (or 30% physical with VW) dmg reduction. Vanish? Demo/PHowl. ShS? Intercept. Couple of season ago Rogues were almost non-existant in 5s because they were so easily trained, now all of a sudden they're immortal? I don't buy it. I think their abilities are being blown way out of proportion. They're just as squishy as they always were, they just have a few tricks up their sleave now to save them from being instagibbed. And like I said already, Cheat Death is getting nerfed significantly with PVE gear, and yes it will make a big difference. The damage output of a full PVP geared vs heavily PVE geared rogue does differ greatly, and not just due to stats but due to T6 set bonuses as well. Over the last few months more and more guilds have been accessing T6 content which has resulted in more and more T6 geared rogues appearing in arena, and I think that's where most of the QQ is coming from. The main reason they've been able to get away with that is due to Cheat Death being unaffected by personal stats. With that issue being addressed I don't really see a problem with rogues anymore.
And the thread may be about discussing what's popular in arena atm, effective counter setups, strats, etc, not QQing about rogues for a page and a half. A single frost mage can pretty much completely shut down a melee heavy team on his own, should we QQ about that too for 2 pages now? It would be just as useless to everyone coming here looking for actual useful information.