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Illundai · 07/17/08, 12:54 PM

I still have yet to find a good reason to make a Prot Warrior tank him, I just don't see the benefit from it? If you run a triple hunter group - like most guilds do now, I presume, if not they should start because it's incredibly powerful - you want a feral regardless. The problem is the Feral will be extremely limited in his use since he won't be able to DPS KJ properly as Shred won't be usable most of the time.
Sure it's doable, but if you have a dual warglaives chasing the tank's threat I have doubts that a Prot Warrior without Revenge or Shield Slam (as you're going to want to Dual Wield, I presume) will be able to keep ahead of threat. Perhaps it's doable, but a Feral Druid in full DPS gear does about 2500 TPS steady whilst doing 1000 DPS. I'm not quite sure what a Warrior can do, but on our first kill our Dual Warglaive Warrior was 5k threat behind on the Druid by execute spamming with Recklessness.

Anyway, to my point. I'm still convinced Feral + Pala is the optimal combo for this fight; the only times we've used a Prot Warrior was to do the Dragoncontrolling, but we use a mage for that now. Sure they take less damage, but we usually use 2 Resto Druids and if they both roll full HoTs on him it doesnt matter if its 9000 per Soulflay or 8500, it's gonna heal it up regardless. And a Prot Paladin can pick up all the adds by himself just fine, so I don't see the need to run a Prot Warrior for that either.

For the guilds that use a Protection Warrior, do you run a Feral druid too? I'd love to see your raidsetups, since our Prot Warriors are wanting to tank him and I'm not really in favor, since it will be a logistic nightmare for me to setup the raid around a tanking warrior.

Anyway, about the fight. We killed him yesterday again, but we wiped at least twice due to what was said to be 'fixed'. The first time since we started this fight that I saw him do it twice in one fight. Darkness -> Darts two times in a row, it was horrible. Funny how the first one didn't wipe us (we buff after the shield on the first one) but the second did (we buff before here).
I noticed him parrying & dodging a lot less than last week, but that's probably Onyxia Deep Breaths more; it was kinda weird though, considering I'm standing right infront of him so I get the most parries.

07/17/08, 12:54 PM	#64 (permalink)
Illundai Great Tiger Vyoh Human Death Knight <Numen> Silvermoon (EU)	I still have yet to find a good reason to make a Prot Warrior tank him, I just don't see the benefit from it? If you run a triple hunter group - like most guilds do now, I presume, if not they should start because it's incredibly powerful - you want a feral regardless. The problem is the Feral will be extremely limited in his use since he won't be able to DPS KJ properly as Shred won't be usable most of the time. Sure it's doable, but if you have a dual warglaives chasing the tank's threat I have doubts that a Prot Warrior without Revenge or Shield Slam (as you're going to want to Dual Wield, I presume) will be able to keep ahead of threat. Perhaps it's doable, but a Feral Druid in full DPS gear does about 2500 TPS steady whilst doing 1000 DPS. I'm not quite sure what a Warrior can do, but on our first kill our Dual Warglaive Warrior was 5k threat behind on the Druid by execute spamming with Recklessness. Anyway, to my point. I'm still convinced Feral + Pala is the optimal combo for this fight; the only times we've used a Prot Warrior was to do the Dragoncontrolling, but we use a mage for that now. Sure they take less damage, but we usually use 2 Resto Druids and if they both roll full HoTs on him it doesnt matter if its 9000 per Soulflay or 8500, it's gonna heal it up regardless. And a Prot Paladin can pick up all the adds by himself just fine, so I don't see the need to run a Prot Warrior for that either. For the guilds that use a Protection Warrior, do you run a Feral druid too? I'd love to see your raidsetups, since our Prot Warriors are wanting to tank him and I'm not really in favor, since it will be a logistic nightmare for me to setup the raid around a tanking warrior. Anyway, about the fight. We killed him yesterday again, but we wiped at least twice due to what was said to be 'fixed'. The first time since we started this fight that I saw him do it twice in one fight. Darkness -> Darts two times in a row, it was horrible. Funny how the first one didn't wipe us (we buff after the shield on the first one) but the second did (we buff before here). I noticed him parrying & dodging a lot less than last week, but that's probably Onyxia Deep Breaths more; it was kinda weird though, considering I'm standing right infront of him so I get the most parries.