Originally Posted by smidefix
Now to my question, what to upgrade next from badges, Bloodlust Brooch or Belt of the Silent Path? Or maybe something other?
I also got Bindings of Lightning Reflexes from MH trash last time, are they good for me at this point? When do haste really give a boost? (Even that i don't have chance to get HoD atm)
My dps seems to vary quite much, when we killed Winterchill last time i got around 1000 dps but then on Voidreaver i only hade around 860.
WWS reports:
Wow Web Stats - VR
Wow Web Stats - Winterchill
Can you see something i do diffrent? I try to stay to same Dps cycle all time.
Will i gain or loose dps if I respecc 0/20/41 ? I have done some math, i will have 2 more rapid fire in a 6-7 min fight. But will that + the extra crit give more then i get from IAoTH? |
Concerning the Belt of the Silent Path, it is a nice DPS upgrade over your current belt. In addition, the +23 hit rating allows you to replace an inferior to hit item (like your boots) with a better DPS item. My only concern with the belt is that it is leather and that you are already wearing three leather pieces resulting in a very low mana pool. If you are currently having mana problems, I would not make this change until you can fix it or unless the to hit from the badge belt will allow you to replace a leather to hit item with a better mail DPS item.
The Bloodlust Brooch is a nice DPS upgrade relative to the Mark of Conquest; however, I hesitate once again to suggest making that change due to your mana situation and that you probably rely on the trinket for your mana. Thus, I prefer not to provide any suggestions without having a better feel for your particular mana situation. If you can make the changes and maintain your DPS uptime, then by all means make them.
Concerning the Bindings of Lightning Reflexes, they are about a 7 overall upgrade for me (+11 personal DPS and -4 raid DPS from EW) from your current wrists due to it helping me be able to perform a 1:1.4 unhasted max DPS rotation instead of the 1:1.5 with the badge crossbow. Suggest checking out the change yourself in Cheeky's.
In general haste provide a good boost when it allows you to either tighten up your rotation (without making it fully tight and wasting some of the haste) or allowing you to switch rotations for better DPS.
Assuming identical buffs and boss debuffs, your DPS will vary from boss to boss for various reasons, including:
1) The boss's armor and resistances/immunities. Rage only has 6200 armor while VR has 8800. Hence, your DPS will tend to be higher on Rage than VR.
2) The nature of the fight - do you have to move around a lot or experience interruptions? For the Rage fight, if I stand at max range sperad out from everyone else, I rarely have to move (if at all) to get out of death and decay allowing me to maintain my max DPS rotation through most or all of the fight. On the other hand, I know I will need to move and move frequently in the VR fight, resulting in a loss of DPS.
From the analyses I have previously done on my character, I have found the 0/20/41 spec to work the best for me, with the addition of the extra utility from readiness. I had a IAotH build at one time until I did the original analysis that prompted me to switch, and I have gotten the same result everytime I have reperformed the analysis (prior to T6 4-set bonus with 3.0 speed weapon). Suggest checking it out yourself in Cheeky's.
Originally Posted by Shikimaru
I have 122 passive haste, which takes me down to 2.42, however I've yet to get a DST. I've looked around and have heard different opinions on what talent build to use and which rotation to shoot for.
First spec/rotation(what people suggest): Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
- Use 1:1.5 then switch to 3:2 once AoTH procs or during heroism.
- Other rotation suggestion I heard with this build would be just going 3:2 period.
Second would be my current spec/rotation: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
- Use 1:1.5 and switch to 1:1 once Rapid Fire or Heroism is up.
I'm not too sure which road to take  |
My suggestion is a 0/20/41 spec with Readiness. For anyone without the T6 4-set bonus, I have found that to be the most effective spec, especially for someone without DST. Results of my previous analyses are spread throughout time in this thread. Check it out yourself in Cheeky's though.
I also suggest never using a 2:1 or 3:2 rotation. As per my analysis a couple pages back, I suggest using the 1:1.5 rotation unhasted. Switch to the 1:1.4 under any haste effects less than 480 haste. Then use the 1:1 for haste greater than 480. The results of this will outperform either the 2:1 or 3:2 over all haste values. If you pick up about another 28 haste, then you can use the 1:1.4 unhasted as well for better DPS than the 1:1.5 and switch to the 1:1 at hastes above 450.
Originally Posted by Nakaya_kilrogg
What is the SV preferred shot rotation? I pretty much copied Whitefyst's spec. Could someone post the steady shot macro for said preferred rotation?
Using the Bristleblitz and have low haste.
I usually raid with the Bloodlust Brooch and Ashtongue Talisman. Trust me, I know the AToS is the suck, but I could NEVER get a TT to drop for me, and haven't had a shot at a MotB yet. I work with the tools I've been given, heh. And, as I said, I'll re-gem properly after I try this out for a few days to see if it goes well.
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If you are using my spec with a 3.0 speed weapon at 2.61 speed, I suggest the following rotations:
- Between 0 and 150 haste: 1:1.5 (auto-steady-arcane-auto-steady-auto-steady-multishot-auto-steady (repeat))
- Between 150 and 600 haste: 1:1.4 (same as above but with another auto-steady before the multishot)
- Greater than 600 haste: 1:1 (old BM rotation)
As far as macros, you will have to look past in posts to get any since I would prefer not to repeat any, especially when I do not use any full rotation macros myself. I use the BM 1:1 macro with hand-weaving my arcane and multis.
Whether Hourglass or AToS is better depends on your average weapon speed, sepc, and rotation. With a 3.0 speed weapon with being hasted for only short periods of your DPS time and the 0/20/41 spec, I find the hourglass, if you have it, to be more beneficial as some of my previous analyis posted has discussed. That extra crit not only helps your DPS but also returns more mana from TotH, increases your EW uptime, and provides your pet with more focus. The AToS will outperform the hourglass under certain conditions (mainly when under higher average weapon speeds and doing more steady shots per second), even with your situation, but I believe from my analyses that the hourglass will perform better for you more often. Check it out yourself in Cheeky's though.