Originally Posted by Dbakes

If this is really the wrong place for this, lemme know and I'll look some more for Rawr forums.

I got the Idol of the White Stag from Supremus last week, looked it up in Rawr, and was a bit bummed to see it's not even close to Everbloom Idol for cat dps. So I put it in the bank.

Playing around with bear gear in Rawr this morning though, I happen to notice that it ranks it as quite a bit better than Idol of Terror for tanking. I can see how this would be the case for threat generation, but Rawr gives the Idol of Terror no bonus for mitigation, even though the proc will increase my dodge percentage (by a good bit).

Is there some setting I'm missing in Rawr for this? Does Rawr not give it the mitigation bonus because is chance based proc? If that's the case, does it also not give a threat generation bonus for the added crit with the proc? What do other people think of these two idols for tanking?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Astrylian

It's a proc. A proc with a very high uptime (~66-75%), but a proc none-the-less. It's also a proc that drastically changes the value of other gear. It's for that reason that we don't apply an averaged-out static value to it. 65agi, 75% of the time is *not* the same as 48.75agi, 100% of the time, since avoidance scales. You'll notice that we maintain that rule for procs throughout all of Rawr; if averaging it out is the same as its exact value, we average it out and put it on the item. If not, we make it a temp buff. (For example, +AP trinkets are averaged out since 1000ap 10% of the time *is* the same as 100ap 100% of the time, DPS-wise.)

We'd like to be able to correctly model it and find the actual uptime, and from there, the actual effect on avoidance it has, on average, and we'll do just that, when we have time. But for now... Come on, everyone knows you use Terror to tank with. It's not worth our time, it's the bear best idol, it's obvious.