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Old 08/11/08, 4:10 PM   #971 (permalink)
Blacksen
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Zul'Jin
Originally Posted by Dominus View Post
This actually heavily depends on group makeup. Our locks/mages have no problem using destruction potions as they're almost always paired with a resto shaman and shadow priest.
Do your warlocks lifetap? Yes.
Then unless they're at some obscene (and unattainable at Brutallus) level of haste, mana potions will be better.

Saying that "group makeup" makes a difference is also false. If it can save ONE life tap, mana potions will still be better. The frequency at which they lifetap makes no difference.

I use mana pots over destruction pots aswell on stationary fights (like brutallus) or fights very excessive tapping might get you killed (felmyst p1). On fights where alot of movement is involved destro usually is better, if you can always tap when running.

Mana pots generally _ARE_ more dps than destro pots for a warlock. I don't know to how many locks i've said it and always get "ye ok" and then they continue using destro pots. I'll use some simple math this time to prove my point (which I hate sadsndsakdn! ^^)..

One super mana pot gives 1800-3000 mana, that's 2400 mana on avarage.

One lifetap at your gear level gives ~1800 mana (at the cost of 1800 health, also straining healers). That's 1.5 seconds global cd. 600 more mana (to reach 2400) is 0.5 seconds global cooldown more landing you at 2 seconds spent not casting.

1 shadowbolt = 2.5 second cast. Your avarage shadowbolt does with crit and raid debuffs counted for ~5500 damage. 2 seconds of no casts is 4/5 of a shadowbolt, 4/5 of 5500 = 4400 damage.

Every mana pot you use gives you 4400 damage effectively.

Oh i'm so bored right now but meh, now for the destruction pot.. ^^

A destruction pot gives you 2% increased crit and 120 spell damage for 15 seconds.

In 15 seconds you cast 6 shadowbolts at 2.5 speed.

2% increased crit does at your gear level (again raid debuffs and everything counted for): 1% crit does 3800 extra damage at 100% crit damage (counting your avarage bolt at 3800). 3800x2 = 7600. 7600*0.02 (2% crit) = 152 damage on one bolt. Multiply that with 6 bolts and you get 912 damage from the crit.

The 120 damage gives 720 damage if you multiply with 6. But as a lock you get almost 1x coefficient shiz (think it's 97%) from spell damage + 20% from shadow and flame. So we have to add the shadow and flame. 720*0.17 = 122.4. 720+122.4 = 842.4 damage increase over 15 secs from the damage bonus.

912+842.4 = 1754.4 damage increase from destro pot

So...

1 Super mana pot = 4400 damage increase
1 destruction pot = 1754.4 damage increase


Quite a difference huh?

Now I didn't count the extra crit damage from meta gem, but it only gives a extremely small increase to the destro pot damage. Also i didn't count any haste but as you can see, you would need some impossible amounts of haste (over 50%) to make destro pots a better choice.

Destro pots are perhaps even with mana pots under the extreme circumstances of you haveing a really nice passive haste rating + blood lust + illidan trinket activated. But in general, mana pots outweight destro pots BY FAR!
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